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nickcleverley · 28-04-2011, 07:38

Hi lads, looking for a bit of advice. My 96' Starlet is absolutely swallowing petrol, i threw 20 quid into her today and i only got 60 miles, the gauge now says its empty... I'm still in school and if it keeps up this way i wont be able to afford to drive

Do any of you know why she might be using so much fuel, or what i could do to stop her being so thirsty

Thanks in advance

Owen · 28-04-2011, 07:41

Twenty quid these days isn't much petrol, only 12 or so litres.

Big Nelly · 28-04-2011, 07:55

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Originally Posted by nickcleverley

Hi lads, looking for a bit of advice. My 96' Starlet is absolutely swallowing petrol, i threw 20 quid into her today and i only got 60 miles, the gauge now says its empty... I'm still in school and if it keeps up this way i wont be able to afford to drive

Do any of you know why she might be using so much fuel, or what i could do to stop her being so thirsty

Thanks in advance

When was last service? do you service regularly?

Plug · 28-04-2011, 08:18

About 25MPG, as above do you get it serviced? As your in school Im guessing you think its some sort of a rally car and you are driving it hard? Could be wrong?

Songok · 28-04-2011, 08:33

As i have learned with the 4e-fe engine if you drive it gently and change up at what seems like silly low revs and dont go over 60mph then you will get decent mpg.(owned two in a corolla and mother had a starlet)
I also find it to be a very thirsty engine but only if reving hard or going "fast". It does also seem to run excessively rich on startup compared to newer engines so if you are doing lots of short trips it will ruin you on petrol.

allyJay · 28-04-2011, 22:38

Is it possible that the it's leaking somewhere? I have a toyota corolla, older than yours and rust can be a problem.

Del2005 · 28-04-2011, 23:06

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Originally Posted by nickcleverley

Hi lads, looking for a bit of advice. My 96' Starlet is absolutely swallowing petrol, i threw 20 quid into her today and i only got 60 miles, the gauge now says its empty...

How long have you had it? Has it suddenly started drinking heavy. Is it "tuned"?

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I'm still in school and if it keeps up this way i wont be able to afford to drive

I wish I could have driven when I was in school, I used to have to walk barefoot in the snow

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Do any of you know why she might be using so much fuel,

Check your tyre pressure, empty the car, how many passengers are you carrying?

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or what i could do to stop her being so thirsty

Less right foot.

nickcleverley · 29-04-2011, 15:19

Thanks for the replies lads

i've only had her about 3 weeks, i did start driving it a bit recklessly admittedly, but i'm calming down now, it isn't tuned but there was some sort of induction kit in it, but i got a standard air box from a scrappy. Theres no other 'tuning' done to it. I checked the oil yesterday and it was empty

so i filled it straight away. It can be a right bastard to start in the mornings, you have to rev her a bit for it to tick over

.. It does feel like its very sluggish if you change gear at low revs and lack of a tachometer makes it difficult to judge a perfect shift

matt-dublin · 29-04-2011, 15:24

sounds like you're dirving her a bit heavy, id also suggest buying a new air filter.

also 20 euros is not a lot at all anymore. Sounds not too bad, its about 20-25MPG which for an old car isn't overly bad.

no1beemerfan · 29-04-2011, 15:25

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Originally Posted by nickcleverley

Thanks for the replies lads

i've only had her about 3 weeks, i did start driving it a bit recklessly admittedly, but i'm calming down now, it isn't tuned but there was some sort of induction kit in it, but i got a standard air box from a scrappy. Theres no other 'tuning' done to it. I checked the oil yesterday and it was empty

so i filled it straight away. It can be a right bastard to start in the mornings, you have to rev her a bit for it to tick over

.. It does feel like its very sluggish if you change gear at low revs and lack of a tachometer makes it difficult to judge a perfect shift

If the oil was that low its been a while since it was serviced. Give it a full service, fresh oil, oilfilter, airfilter and sparkplugs. And drive it a bit gently!

Also check the breathing pipes and throttle body housing...these could do with a clean too I reckon.

slimjimmc · 29-04-2011, 18:11

And make sure none of the brakes are binding on all little, including the handbrake.

_Conrad_ · 29-04-2011, 20:22

25mpg from a starlet is ridiculous. Is it a carb one or an EFi one?

Also it is 4 speed or 5? Probably should be 5 speed bein a 96 but a lot of those yokes are made up of several differnet cars by now and there were some mad spec variations anyway

Testament1 · 29-04-2011, 21:00

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Originally Posted by PaintDoctor

Twenty quid these days isn't much petrol, only 12 or so litres.

13.4 litres at 149.9 on my last trip to the petrol station. And that 13 litres lasts me around 160kms in the Levin so I'd imagine a Starlet ought to be a bit lighter on the juice

Kevin Irving · 29-04-2011, 21:39

You got 160km, he' got about ~95km. Not ridiculously off the money if his car had no oil, rallying the thing around the place, etc.

A full service, as suggested above should give a marked improvement. (Possibly) carrying lots of passengers in the new car wouldn't helpeither.

RoverJames · 29-04-2011, 21:43

What kind of driving did the 60 miles consist of? Cruising at near 60mph on a main road or spinning around urban areas? If it's the later poor figures are to be expected. With an average speed of 10/15 mph (all anyone will achieve spinning about urban areas with lots of stop/go) very poor mpg will be seen even in super economical cars.

28-04-2011, 07:38	#1
nickcleverley Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Fethard, Tiperarrryyyyyy Posts: 122 Adverts \| Friends	HELP :( Hi lads, looking for a bit of advice. My 96' Starlet is absolutely swallowing petrol, i threw 20 quid into her today and i only got 60 miles, the gauge now says its empty... I'm still in school and if it keeps up this way i wont be able to afford to drive Do any of you know why she might be using so much fuel, or what i could do to stop her being so thirsty Thanks in advance

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_Conrad_ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,127 Adverts \| Friends	25mpg from a starlet is ridiculous. Is it a carb one or an EFi one? Also it is 4 speed or 5? Probably should be 5 speed bein a 96 but a lot of those yokes are made up of several differnet cars by now and there were some mad spec variations anyway Last edited by _Conrad_; 29-04-2011 at 20:25.

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28-04-2011, 07:41	#2
Owen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 12,198 Adverts \| Friends	Twenty quid these days isn't much petrol, only 12 or so litres.

28-04-2011, 08:18	#4
Plug Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,433 Adverts \| Friends	About 25MPG, as above do you get it serviced? As your in school Im guessing you think its some sort of a rally car and you are driving it hard? Could be wrong?

28-04-2011, 08:33	#5
Songok Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Find me Posts: 753 Adverts \| Friends	As i have learned with the 4e-fe engine if you drive it gently and change up at what seems like silly low revs and dont go over 60mph then you will get decent mpg.(owned two in a corolla and mother had a starlet) I also find it to be a very thirsty engine but only if reving hard or going "fast". It does also seem to run excessively rich on startup compared to newer engines so if you are doing lots of short trips it will ruin you on petrol.

28-04-2011, 22:38	#6
allyJay Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 37 Adverts \| Friends	Is it possible that the it's leaking somewhere? I have a toyota corolla, older than yours and rust can be a problem.

29-04-2011, 15:19	#8
nickcleverley Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Fethard, Tiperarrryyyyyy Posts: 122 Adverts \| Friends	Thanks for the replies lads i've only had her about 3 weeks, i did start driving it a bit recklessly admittedly, but i'm calming down now, it isn't tuned but there was some sort of induction kit in it, but i got a standard air box from a scrappy. Theres no other 'tuning' done to it. I checked the oil yesterday and it was empty so i filled it straight away. It can be a right bastard to start in the mornings, you have to rev her a bit for it to tick over .. It does feel like its very sluggish if you change gear at low revs and lack of a tachometer makes it difficult to judge a perfect shift

29-04-2011, 15:24	#9
matt-dublin Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UrAnus Posts: 3,614 Adverts \| Friends	sounds like you're dirving her a bit heavy, id also suggest buying a new air filter. also 20 euros is not a lot at all anymore. Sounds not too bad, its about 20-25MPG which for an old car isn't overly bad.

29-04-2011, 18:11	#11
slimjimmc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,757 Adverts \| Friends	And make sure none of the brakes are binding on all little, including the handbrake.

29-04-2011, 21:39	#14
Kevin Irving Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 2,160 Adverts \| Friends	You got 160km, he' got about ~95km. Not ridiculously off the money if his car had no oil, rallying the thing around the place, etc. A full service, as suggested above should give a marked improvement. (Possibly) carrying lots of passengers in the new car wouldn't helpeither.

29-04-2011, 21:43	#15
RoverJames Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23,198 Adverts \| Friends	What kind of driving did the 60 miles consist of? Cruising at near 60mph on a main road or spinning around urban areas? If it's the later poor figures are to be expected. With an average speed of 10/15 mph (all anyone will achieve spinning about urban areas with lots of stop/go) very poor mpg will be seen even in super economical cars.