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06-02-2012, 19:15   #271
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My medication and dosing has been strange for the last several months, previous to the RAI 3 months ago i was on 1500mg a week (200 everyday, 300 on friday). I was taken of my meds and placed on T3 alone running up to an uptake scan which was positive . After the RAI coming back up on the Eltroxin i got to 1400mg a week (200 a day) and seem to have become hyperthyroid which confuses me since i was on less eltroxin before.
You did say your had symptoms such as anxiety, paranoia, etc if I remember correctly - and I'd say that could have been caused by the T3 only regime. A friend of mine went onto T3 only for a while and went totally mental on it - anxiety, paranoia, sleeplessness, panic attacks, the full works.... How long were you on the T3 only and since when are you back on Eltroxin.
The dosing seems a bit strange allright, but in any case, your latest results do suggest you've gone hyper, so despite this dose being lower than the pre RAI dose I would suggest you lower it (slightly) and get re-tested in a few weeks. It does take some time though for the levels to come down, so don't get too worried if the "madness" doesn't stop for a while
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Dear lord Chessguy have you never heard of brain fog??????

Excellent post, it may take me a week to get through it, there is some sound advice in there, i just need to break it down to bite size pieces, baby steps.
I have being coming around to the idea that a whole life style change is required, that there is no once a day magic pill to sort out my health.

Thanks for the response.
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The Know it all Endo said that i was going a bit Hyper!!!!

Not sure how the health service works, can i just get a request for bloods from my GP and go to another hospital to have them tested eg Beaumount?
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Yeah, well your TSH was below range, but FT4 and FT3 were perfect. Time for a new endo I think....

I don't know about the health service much either, but my GP doesn't take bloods, so he gives me a lab slip and I go to the hospital. They get served by two hospitals, Tallaght and James, so I can go to either and they have lab slips for both those hospitals. But if all your tests were done in the same hospital, then they can obviously do them. Just make sure that when you go it does not only say TFT (i.e. thyroid function test, which is TSH and T4) but FT4 and FT3 are written down specifically.
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Now I'm going back for the results of my latest blood test in a couple of days to see how the initial dose they have put me on is working out. But... although I'm certain I'm feeling better overall since the beginning of January, I'm not quite sure what variations I'm now aware of in "general crappyness" feelings are due to the cold weather, my increase in training recently, work... or if things are actually down to the new drugs.

How long do the thyroid drugs/ hormones work over? Such as would you get a variation in levels during the day/ hours or is it more over multiple days that they take effect.
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How long do the thyroid drugs/ hormones work over? Such as would you get a variation in levels during the day/ hours or is it more over multiple days that they take effect.
That's the thing, I think it's very individual. In my case, my eltroxin is still not right. I've never had a steady dose or an ''oh my god I feel great'' episode. I'm on Eltroxin 7 years and the longest I went for bloods was 6 months. I'm now back to 6 weeks!! It really just depends on the individual.
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Now I'm going back for the results of my latest blood test in a couple of days to see how the initial dose they have put me on is working out. But... although I'm certain I'm feeling better overall since the beginning of January, I'm not quite sure what variations I'm now aware of in "general crappyness" feelings are due to the cold weather, my increase in training recently, work... or if things are actually down to the new drugs.

How long do the thyroid drugs/ hormones work over? Such as would you get a variation in levels during the day/ hours or is it more over multiple days that they take effect.
Once the tablets are ingested there is some debate around 'absorption' into the blood stream- i.e. take you medication on an empty stomach so the entire dose goes into the blood stream without changing it chemical effectiveness ,
Thyroid circulates in the blood stream and is used throughout the body everywhere. It's doesn't work like caffeine or a pain killer, supplies are built up gradually in the blood stream- T4 has a half life of 7 days and you're constantly producing/consuming.
so when you begin supplementing give at least 6 weeks (at least) before serum levels stabilize, during this time as far as symptoms are concerned - anything goes! most feel worse
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I was diagnosed with an under-active thyroid four months after my baby was born that was a year ago I am on 50mg of eltroxin but feel tired all the time. My gp says my levels are fine

In the last month the soles of my feet have become very sore manly the heels and I find it hard to walk on the them and going up or down stairs is a nightmare. I read somewhere that this might be a symptom of a thyroid issue.

So I suppose what Im asking is has anyone heard of this before, I want to speak to my gp about it but need a bit more info as she tends to dismiss me as my levels are stable (moving gp is not an option)

I know she will recommend more blood tests which is fine but I just want to know if they is a side affect of thyroid issues
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I know she will recommend more blood tests which is fine but I just want to know if they is a side affect of thyroid issues
Hi Edellc

I feel your pain - literally!
sore hands and feet are a common symptom of hypothyroidism
please follow this link for more information

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Medical-R...inful-feet.htm

why not print it out and show your doctor as they have a great way of convincing hypothyroid patients that 'your symptoms are not thyroid related'

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Edellc,

As Rob said, very common. I used to get really bad repetitive strain injury pain in my wrists, and I also got it on the inside leg part of my ankles, when I get it there it's one of my first signs to know that I'm under-dosed. That together with dry eyes!
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Thanks for the replies and the link....I have just gotten off the phone from my gp and as I suspected she said that my levels when tested in October where that of someone with no thyroid issue. She also said that considering where my thyroid is located compared to my feet that there is no way my sore feet are connected to a thyroid issue. She suggested I look at my footware and that I come in to get my bloods checked for peace of mind but said all should be fine, and that once we check bloods we can then check my footware

So now I go round in circles again
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Now I'm going back for the results of my latest blood test in a couple of days to see how the initial dose they have put me on is working out. But... although I'm certain I'm feeling better overall since the beginning of January, I'm not quite sure what variations I'm now aware of in "general crappyness" feelings are due to the cold weather, my increase in training recently, work... or if things are actually down to the new drugs.

How long do the thyroid drugs/ hormones work over? Such as would you get a variation in levels during the day/ hours or is it more over multiple days that they take effect.
Hi there are variations during the day , the hormone T4 takes 3-4 hours for max absorbtion via a normal diet , so at tiimes it is advised not to take it a few hours before a blood test, but T4 works long term it does not have actual swings , goitrogenic food can disrupt its absorbtion soya can too.like coffe and alchol.

The basic job of T4 is to convert to T3 which is what is actually used.

The effects of taking T4 usually take around 2 weeks , when one stops the medication , it takes from 7 to 10 days depending on your metabolism,to clear out.

It is best taken at night for optimal use as this is when your liver is most active too

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I was diagnosed with an under-active thyroid four months after my baby was born that was a year ago I am on 50mg of eltroxin but feel tired all the time. My gp says my levels are fine

In the last month the soles of my feet have become very sore manly the heels and I find it hard to walk on the them and going up or down stairs is a nightmare. I read somewhere that this might be a symptom of a thyroid issue.

So I suppose what Im asking is has anyone heard of this before, I want to speak to my gp about it but need a bit more info as she tends to dismiss me as my levels are stable (moving gp is not an option)

I know she will recommend more blood tests which is fine but I just want to know if they is a side affect of thyroid issues

Hi Magnesium in chelated form Albion patent is a good choice mentioned in my previous article, Magnesium does wonders for muscle aches, many published articles on this,

Solgar do a good Albion patented Magnesium in chelated form. available in Irish Health shops,
do not use the cheap magnesium oxide , its only good as a laxative.

why are we almosty all short on Magnesium, well no real crop rotation , and the way foods are grown , years ago it was never needed,
soil is depleted of its natural organic nutrients.And has no time to recover.

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She also said that considering where my thyroid is located compared to my feet that there is no way my sore feet are connected to a thyroid issue.
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Edellc - RUN away from this doctor- I know you said that changing doctors was not an option but the above statement is laughable.

There is more to treating hypothyroidism than reading a blood test- an at least a basic understanding of how thyroid hormone effects muscles and tissues should be assumed! - Jesus I can't believe that came out of a doctors mouth, it's absolutely incredulous
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I have an overactive thyroid, diagnosed about 4 years ago, it really ****ed me up to put it mildly and it was only when i took responsibility of my diet, the amount of stimulants I took and sleep I got that it began to improve.

I am not sure how it works for a hypoactive thyroid but I know from experience that a hyperactive is definitely affected by your lifestyle and the stricter you control your diet and exercise regime the healthier you can be.

Hope you get better or can manage it, it's really one of the worst feelings in the world.

Regarding taking Zinc and Magnesium I found this helped my sleeping pattern a lot, but I took it anyway, in ZMA form. Just be aware that calcium negatively affects zinc absorption so don't take your zinc tablets with a pint of milk

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Edellc,

As Rob said, very common. I used to get really bad repetitive strain injury pain in my wrists, and I also got it on the inside leg part of my ankles, when I get it there it's one of my first signs to know that I'm under-dosed. That together with dry eyes!
I thought this was just me!! Dry eyes and sore hands!! Ok so, that answers that for me!
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