[DGOBS]

I was called out to an oil installation (14 months old) with a boiler house model in the centre of the house (these houses used to have warm air units) and the boiler had sooted up (cracked nozzle holder!!)

The installation was grant aided, and had been audited when finished and again after the installer had carried out remedial actions

a) the boiler was conventional flued in a compartment in with 2 vents (hi/low) into different living spaces, neither of which had purpose provided ventilation!
b) the boiler had a single walled flue
c) there was 1.5m of flexi-flue liner from the 1m of twin wall coming off the boiler
d) the remote acting fire valve phial was under the boiler
e) the condensate & prv were piped side by side to an 'unviewable' position, no tundish
f) the bypass valve was 6 inches from the boiler (doesn't have over run anyway so don't see the point)

the list goes on........

Queried the customer to how the audit went, and the installer had been made come back and fit an EXTERNAL type tiger loop and the tank was (marginally...6inches) higher
than the bottom of the oil tank!!!

Second audit went without a hitch!

I have removed the tiger loop and went back to a single pipe supply!

Where are they getting the auditors?

[JohnnieK]

Then on the other extreme Tony, I got a re-works for a job I done RE the safety blow off not correct.

Because the job was done about 6 months prior I couldn't remember. I went back and instead of having it 100mm off the ground it was 120mm off the ground. They where prepared to give me points over 20mm.

It was the last bit off 1/2 inch I had left on the job and I was 20mm short and assumed because it was terminating in a low risk area it was o.k.

[DGOBS]

Crazy.....quango!

[shane0007]

Well their latest newsletter http://www.seai.ie/Grants/Better_ene...Edition_13.pdf now clearly states it only has to be a 100mm downturn with the outlet faing downwards!!!!

[JohnnieK]

Originally Posted by shane0007

Well their latest newsletter http://www.seai.ie/Grants/Better_ene...Edition_13.pdf now clearly states it only has to be a 100mm downturn with the outlet faing downwards!!!!

It happened about a year and a half ago. I'm surprised they didn't get me to paint the house too

[shane0007]

Out with the paint scraper and get them logos off the vans too!!!

[JohnnieK]

Originally Posted by shane0007

Out with the paint scraper and get them logos off the vans too!!!

Speaking of paint scraper's there is a company on deals at the moment that also have a painting and decorating van on the road! Now what are they, plumbers or Painters?

[knickyb]

it doesnt matter lads the grant scheme is going in 2013 and the only ones that will issue grants is the likes of the esb and bord gais

[sandeepvaidya]

I wonder if anybody here has any experience with SEAI audits. We recently upgraded heating controls ( 3-zones, and TRV's only.) and had our loft insulated.

We got SEAI approved tradesmen to do the jobs. A few weeks before this work started, I bought several meters of insulation tubbing from Woody's in mullingar and insulated all the exposed pipes in the loft. I used the tin foil wrap tape to seal the ends and to make sure the tubes are fit securely. I also used the heavy.

The BER assessor inspected the loft after all the work was complete. He gave an ok.

Several weeks after receiving the grant payment, we received a letter from SEAI stating that our house was selected for an audit. A guy from KN Networking did the audit inspection. As a homowner, we were completely out of the loop. He did not say anything to us.

However, we received a call from the guy who did the loft insulation that he was fined 2 penalty points because the "insulation tubbing used for the pipes was not upto SEAI standard."

Could it be that Woody's is selling a substandard product ?



Sandeep

[shane0007]

If you have used 9mm tubolit or similar, it does not meet the building reg standards since 2008. Also insulation over joints, etc. must be continuous.
The insulation installer should have recognised the issue before signing the declaration of works form stating that the installation meets or exceeds SEAI requirements.

[sandeepvaidya]

Thanks. 9mm is the thickess of the tube ? The ones i used are about
1 cm.....

What is the correct thickness as per the regulations ?
Sandeep

[shane0007]

Originally Posted by sandeepvaidya

Thanks. 9mm is the thickess of the tube ? The ones i used are about
1 cm.....

What is the correct thickness as per the regulations ?
Sandeep

9mm is the thickness of the wall thickness of the insulation itself. It should be equal to the diameter of the pipe itself, i.e. if you have 3/4" pipe then the wall thickness of the insulation shoul be 22mm or minimum 19mm for Irish copper or 1/2" pipes should be 15mm thickness or minimum 13mm for Irish copper.