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adamski8 · 29-09-2011, 18:07

hey again LM,

can you give me your thoughts on this one http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2570451
it seems a little over price but with all the parts recently replaced maybe not especially the clutch with a corolla. would it be reasonable for me to go with 1000 cash and get it for that.

**Limerick man** · 29-09-2011, 18:11

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Originally Posted by adamski8

hey again LM,

can you give me your thoughts on this one http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2570451
it seems a little over price but with all the parts recently replaced maybe not especially the clutch with a corolla. would it be reasonable for me to go with 1000 cash and get it for that.

It will go for ever, correct.

If you got it for down around 850 you'd be fairly guaranteed of hassle free motoring.

adamski8 · 29-09-2011, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Limerick man

It will go for ever, correct.

If you got it for down around 850 you'd be fairly guaranteed of hassle free motoring.

great thats exactly what i wanted. I'd doubt he'd go that far down, wouldn't he have sunk a far few hundred with the servicing, clutch, tires etc? im going tomorrow evening to see it and want to drive away with it as this searching business is taking up way too much of my time, cheers again LM

**Limerick man** · 29-09-2011, 19:20

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Originally Posted by adamski8

great thats exactly what i wanted. I'd doubt he'd go that far down, wouldn't he have sunk a far few hundred with the servicing, clutch, tires etc? im going tomorrow evening to see it and want to drive away with it as this searching business is taking up way too much of my time, cheers again LM

No bother! Best of luck with it

Bombbastic22 · 01-10-2011, 16:12

Hello there,

I have been trawling through used cars for maybe a year - it's become a bit of a hobby.

One thing I've noticed consistently is that private sellers ask as much and all to often way more money than what garages ask - which I think is bananas seen as how you get a warranty, a good wax and polish and maybe some nice new tyres and mats and things - from a garage. All too many private sales are completely filthy.

A lot of the time I put the details of a car into the vrt calculator as a means of getting a ball park figure of what the car would be worth and all too often the garage's price is much closer to what the vrt calculator says whereas the private seller's price is way beyond - on a similar car with similar mileage.

So - do you think the vrt calculator is a good way to guage a car's value? and if not, why not? And why the flip to private sellers try and get so much more than what a car's worth. Why can't people just ask what they'd be happy with and just stick with it. This haggling carry on is a pain in the a**....

**Limerick man** · 01-10-2011, 16:26

Will you post a few examples?

Edit: This probably calls for a new thread tbh

Kev_ps3 · 01-10-2011, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Bombbastic22

Hello there,

I have been trawling through used cars for maybe a year - it's become a bit of a hobby.

One thing I've noticed consistently is that private sellers ask as much and all to often way more money than what garages ask - which I think is bananas seen as how you get a warranty, a good wax and polish and maybe some nice new tyres and mats and things - from a garage. All too many private sales are completely filthy.

A lot of the time I put the details of a car into the vrt calculator as a means of getting a ball park figure of what the car would be worth and all too often the garage's price is much closer to what the vrt calculator says whereas the private seller's price is way beyond - on a similar car with similar mileage.

So - do you think the vrt calculator is a good way to guage a car's value? and if not, why not? And why the flip to private sellers try and get so much more than what a car's worth. Why can't people just ask what they'd be happy with and just stick with it. This haggling carry on is a pain in the a**....

never knew they gave a valuation on that site, nice one, might come in handy.

Amtmann · 01-10-2011, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Bombbastic22

So - do you think the vrt calculator is a good way to guage a car's value? and if not, why not? And why the flip to private sellers try and get so much more than what a car's worth. Why can't people just ask what they'd be happy with and just stick with it. This haggling carry on is a pain in the a**....

It's saying my car is 97% depreciated which values it at €415, which is correct. However, it also says that the current OMSP for the vehicle is €2000, which is wildly wrong.

**Limerick man** · 01-10-2011, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Kev_ps3

never knew they gave a valuation on that site, nice one, might come in handy.

Ignore it!!! It's not worth a piss.

Bombbastic22 · 02-10-2011, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Tremelo

It's saying my car is 97% depreciated which values it at €415, which is correct. However, it also says that the current OMSP for the vehicle is €2000, which is wildly wrong.

It won't go below €2000 for some reason - I'm not sure why. Even if you put in 1990 Lada with one million miles (which may well be a miracle and perhaps give it some miracle value) it will still say €2000. You'd be better off looking at the percentage depreciation in this case.

Bombbastic22 · 02-10-2011, 09:13

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Originally Posted by Limerick man

Ignore it!!! It's not worth a piss.

You may be right but I think it's handy for a ball park figure. Obviously it doesn't take into account how many bangs and scratches a car has had, how clean it is and doesn't put as much weight as it should on the mileage of the car - however, I still think it's good to get a rough idea.

Someone I know bought an 06 Lancer recently - from a garage - priced at 7 - he got it for 6. VRT said 5. It was absolute mint though - at onl+y 30,000 miles.VRT calc put it at the same value -even with about 50000 more miles - as I remember. I still think it's a handy tool.

Will post examples of garage price vs private price later.

**Limerick man** · 02-10-2011, 10:06

The only way to know how much a car is making is to look at other ones for sale, that's it. There's no good "book value".

Bombbastic22 · 02-10-2011, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Limerick man

The only way to know how much a car is making is to look at other ones for sale, that's it. There's no good "book value".

Alas, what they are asking is not what they are getting. Plenty of dealerships I see have cars sitting there for months, if not longer and nothing seems to be moving.........

**Limerick man** · 02-10-2011, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Bombbastic22

Alas, what they are asking is not what they are getting. Plenty of dealerships I see have cars sitting there for months, if not longer and nothing seems to be moving.........

Not Dealers, we're private so we look at what other private sellers are selling for and go from there.

Bombbastic22 · 02-10-2011, 10:49

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Originally Posted by Limerick man

Not Dealers, we're private so we look at what other private sellers are selling for and go from there.

With a lot of the private sellers asking the same or more than garages? With no warranty, no valet, no full service and absolutely zero chance of a refund if things go wrong??? I'd happily pay 500 more from a garage with all of the above. Anyway, pointless debating this.

Great thread all the same. (I'll still be checking out VRT calculator - as well as comparing what other people are selling cars for, sure tis no harm at all.)

01-10-2011, 16:12	#245
Bombbastic22 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 293 Adverts \| Friends	Car Prices Hello there, I have been trawling through used cars for maybe a year - it's become a bit of a hobby. One thing I've noticed consistently is that private sellers ask as much and all to often way more money than what garages ask - which I think is bananas seen as how you get a warranty, a good wax and polish and maybe some nice new tyres and mats and things - from a garage. All too many private sales are completely filthy. A lot of the time I put the details of a car into the vrt calculator as a means of getting a ball park figure of what the car would be worth and all too often the garage's price is much closer to what the vrt calculator says whereas the private seller's price is way beyond - on a similar car with similar mileage. So - do you think the vrt calculator is a good way to guage a car's value? and if not, why not? And why the flip to private sellers try and get so much more than what a car's worth. Why can't people just ask what they'd be happy with and just stick with it. This haggling carry on is a pain in the a**....

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29-09-2011, 18:07	#241
adamski8 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,337 Adverts \| Friends	hey again LM, can you give me your thoughts on this one http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2570451 it seems a little over price but with all the parts recently replaced maybe not especially the clutch with a corolla. would it be reasonable for me to go with 1000 cash and get it for that.

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Limerick man Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Luimneach Posts: 17,929 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Motoring	Will you post a few examples? Edit: This probably calls for a new thread tbh

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Limerick man Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Luimneach Posts: 17,929 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Motoring	The only way to know how much a car is making is to look at other ones for sale, that's it. There's no good "book value".