[Sasquatch76]

I've just started reading this today, but am pretty confident I'll be giving the program a shot (I've started looking around for a pull-ups location!).

But as someone with no real knowledge of exercise/fitness, I'm wondering what some of the experts here on boards make of Wade's writing? It struck me that he makes a lot of claims about how modern exercise and fitness training do more harm than good. Just as one example, re: bench pressing, he says it

destroys the rotator cuff muscles as well as irritating the elbow and wrist joints when performed over even short periods.

When talking about modern sportsmen/women, he says

most of the top guys (whether you believe it or not) only achieve their (temporarily) high level of ability due to performance drugs such as anabolic steroids, testosterone variants, growth hormone, insulin and numerous other substances.

Basically I'm just wondering what you all think of these claims? So far in the book, I haven't seen the author quote any external references to back up his assertions. Just wondering if this type of writing undermines the message he's trying to get out? I understand that he's got a product to sell. Hell, I understand that the author himself may be a work of fiction! But essentially, I'm just looking for the opinions of guys/gals in the know about these things... In other words, what do you think of a) the program itself and b) the book as a whole?

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

[Colibri]

Originally Posted by Sasquatch76

I've just started reading this today, but am pretty confident I'll be giving the program a shot (I've started looking around for a pull-ups location!).

But as someone with no real knowledge of exercise/fitness, I'm wondering what some of the experts here on boards make of Wade's writing? It struck me that he makes a lot of claims about how modern exercise and fitness training do more harm than good. Just as one example, re: bench pressing, he says it

When talking about modern sportsmen/women, he says

Basically I'm just wondering what you all think of these claims? So far in the book, I haven't seen the author quote any external references to back up his assertions. Just wondering if this type of writing undermines the message he's trying to get out? I understand that he's got a product to sell. Hell, I understand that the author himself may be a work of fiction! But essentially, I'm just looking for the opinions of guys/gals in the know about these things... In other words, what do you think of a) the program itself and b) the book as a whole?

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

The program is solid, the rest of it is just marketing fluff.

[Hanley]

Originally Posted by Sasquatch76

I've just started reading this today, but am pretty confident I'll be giving the program a shot (I've started looking around for a pull-ups location!).

But as someone with no real knowledge of exercise/fitness, I'm wondering what some of the experts here on boards make of Wade's writing? It struck me that he makes a lot of claims about how modern exercise and fitness training do more harm than good. Just as one example, re: bench pressing, he says it

When talking about modern sportsmen/women, he says

Basically I'm just wondering what you all think of these claims? So far in the book, I haven't seen the author quote any external references to back up his assertions. Just wondering if this type of writing undermines the message he's trying to get out? I understand that he's got a product to sell. Hell, I understand that the author himself may be a work of fiction! But essentially, I'm just looking for the opinions of guys/gals in the know about these things... In other words, what do you think of a) the program itself and b) the book as a whole?

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

I'm gonna call him a d*ckhead based solely off the crap he's saying to sell his book.

I've never even read it, but these things are so faddy. Over the years it's been Smolov, Sheiko, 5/3/1, Westside for Skinny B*stards, Built like a bad*ss and now it's Convict Conditioning.

[rubadub]

Originally Posted by Sasquatch76

Hell, I understand that the author himself may be a work of fiction!

Some of the workout claims are fiction too, so he has people chasing impossible goals. I posted before...

-the writer also claims to have done a dozen freestanding one arm handstand pushups. A gymnastics coach for the US team said he has never witnessed or heard of any person capable of a single one, even with support, let alone 12 freestanding. The same coach knows a guy that did 163 free standing full ROM HSPU on parrallel bars. The guy who runs beastskills is in the photos in the book and shows him apparently doing them(with support), but I think he admitted he could not do them.

The problem with this is they list doing 1 as a "beginner standard" so people might be training hard to try and acheive something that nobody might have ever done before.

[luckylucky]

There seems to be a big problem in the fitness world. As a newbie (besides doing running and some sports when i was younger (many moons ago ) to the fitness world it gets to the stage where you don't know who or what to believe. All these book sellers and fitness program sellers are just trying to sell a product at the end of the day - some sellers are conscientious I'm sure whereas others may not be - hard to tell who's who though. Also since a lot of this stuff is written with the US Market in mind you get the obligatory repeating of annoying marketing type/brainwashing stuff.

I've read numerous stuff over the past couple of weeks to do with both nutrition and exercise, some of it very contradictory.

so at this stage I'm just settling for the advice which seems to suit me best, whether it does or not is an entirely different matter, but marketing blurb aside Convict conditioning seems like a very good and simple program to condition your body - there might be better - but it's the only one I've read so far. Also a big plus is you can do calisthenics practically anywhere - so they are handy routines to know.

Really from my point of view anyway I think the most important thing is to just start getting up of your ar$e and do something and eat less junk.

[Please Kill Me]

Originally Posted by luckylucky

Really from my point of view anyway I think the most important thing is to just start getting up of your ar$e and do something and eat less junk.

Excuse my split infinitives, but abso-friggin'-lutely!!!!

[Please Kill Me]

Originally Posted by colon

Mr. Please Kill Me. Any chance of a link there please for another decrepit near 40 year old that needs a bit of direction.

No problem, I'll PM you now chief.

[Mellor]

Originally Posted by rubadub

-the writer also claims to have done a dozen freestanding one arm handstand pushups. A gymnastics coach for the US team said he has never witnessed or heard of any person capable of a single one, even with support, let alone 12 freestanding. The same coach knows a guy that did 163 free standing full ROM HSPU on parrallel bars. The guy who runs beastskills is in the photos in the book and shows him apparently doing them(with support), but I think he admitted he could not do them.

I think it was you that posted this before. Prob the closest you'll get to a one handed HSPU

[Please Kill Me]

FAAK! Strength and balance. I have neither! I'm f**ked so! PMSL!

[CountryJoe]

Please Kill Me, could I trouble you for that link please?

[Please Kill Me]

Originally Posted by CountryJoe

Please Kill Me, could I trouble you for that link please?

PM on the way chief.

[CountryJoe]

Much appreciated man

[henryd65]

Hello Please Kill Me,

could you please send me that link as well.

[Bartyman]

Originally Posted by henryd65

Hello Please Kill Me,

could you please send me that link as well.

+ 1 much appreciated.

Cheers

[Please Kill Me]

Originally Posted by henryd65

Hello Please Kill Me,

could you please send me that link as well.

Originally Posted by Bartyman

+ 1 much appreciated.

Cheers

Gone out to ye now lads.