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2smiggy · 07-11-2011, 00:09

69 hours in , level 59, have passed anor londo, sif, butterfly, and hydra.

after i get out of the painted world where is best to ? i presume i have a fair bit to go yet !!

i have been doing an awful lot of getting summoned though ! very enjoyable. i am in the the chaos coenant (spider lady stuck in the wall) , was thinking of leaving to join the cats one. but i have +15 pyro, and i have given her about 8 humanity. i think there is a spell for 20 humanity. its alot of effort though

**johnny_ultimate** · 07-11-2011, 00:12

When you get down into the Tomb of Giants, there's an area where a load of tiny little skeletons constantly respawn. They drop humanity relatively regularly. Spend around twenty minutes there and you'll get the 30 humanity you need to get the Chaos Pyromancy. They drop souls too so it's a very rewarding farming spot (and thanks to however gave the tip earlier in the thread!). If you're into that sort of thing, of course - it's one of only two spots I spent anytime farming in.

Unfortunately, using all those humanities and then offering each of them individually to spider lady is a long, repetitive ten minutes.

Think my final tally of hours was just under sixty, and level in the mid 70s. SL would have been higher if I hadn't stocked up on every sorcery and pyromancy merchants had to offer

2smiggy · 07-11-2011, 00:16

grrrrrr , game froze , hope my humanity is not gone on restart

me and another lad going fairly well too ...

Kirby · 07-11-2011, 01:03

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Originally Posted by Wossack

hated those spinny feckers too

very tight down there, so hard to dodge em

no advice really other then what you're trying to do already.. lure em one at a time, dodge em, and get them from behind as they spin up against the wall. Pyromancy was good for that iirc

Equip your highest stability shield and just block until their attack is over. If you have one over 80, you can just stand and block even as several attack you.

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Originally Posted by noodler

Badly need some 4 kings help.

Kept hearing about how easy they were but I can hardly make a dent in the first one before I get one hit-ed.

Is it worth using a purely magic shield?

Thats all I have, a pure physical or pure magic, no compromise.

Not sure if I'll be much help on this. You can attack with the spear while blocking with a shield at the same time. If you have the stamina, you never take damage. Thats what I did here. I had absolutely no problems so it must just be my build. I wasn't that quick in killing them....and I was worried because people mentioned being ganged up on..... but I only ever had to fight one at a time. Just manage your stamina, keep your shield up and keep stabbing with the spear.

Chairman Meow · 07-11-2011, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Kirby

Not sure if I'll be much help on this. You can attack with the spear while blocking with a shield at the same time. If you have the stamina, you never take damage. Thats what I did here. I had absolutely no problems so it must just be my build. I wasn't that quick in killing them....and I was worried because people mentioned being ganged up on..... but I only ever had to fight one at a time. Just manage your stamina, keep your shield up and keep stabbing with the spear.

Thats a bad, bad strategy for 4 kings man. What you need to do is forget about the shield at all and rush down the first one. Weild your strongest weapon 2 handed for max damage, maybe wear grass crest shiled on your back for stamina regen too. Whack away at him up close, to the side to avoid his grab attack, as his up close attacks do puny amounts of damage. Get him killed before number 2 shows up, rinse, repeat.

Kirby · 07-11-2011, 09:26

Like I said, I see alot of people say twohanded is the way to go with four kings but I can only go on what I experienced.

I did the four kings on my first go, taking one at a time with the lightning spear. Shield up and poke. The damage on it doesn't scale, so your characters level is irrelevant meaning anyone can do it.

Maybe I got lucky...I dunno.... but I killed them one by one with a minimum of fuss. I never got surrounded and I wasn't that quick. If you don't move around alot, they ignore you and you can focus down one at a time.

I understand the thinking behind going two-handed for speed or if they had unblockable attacks.......but I blocked their stuff fine.

I suppose the amount of time you spend on a boss would give a person more insight. I could give you a detailed plan on how to kill Smough/Ornstein for example.....because I died the most on them. But the fights you blow through first go would seem less of a problem.

Burning Eclipse · 07-11-2011, 09:43

Would be interested in hearing peoples stats at the end of the game. I beat the final boss (but by no means completed the game) on Friday night... Think I was around Soul Level 77, took me about 45 hours to complete the thing.

I bought the guide, which is lovely, and looked through it upon completion for my new game +... I missed out on loads of stuff. Couple of Covenants, a few areas (

), optional bosses, etc. So much to do in this game.

Oh, lol at the Asylum Demon in NG+, I destroyed him

Kirby · 07-11-2011, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Burning Eclipse

Would be interested in hearing peoples stats at the end of the game. I beat the final boss (but by no means completed the game) on Friday night... Think I was around Soul Level 77, took me about 45 hours to complete the thing.

I bought the guide, which is lovely, and looked through it upon completion for my new game +... I missed out on loads of stuff. Couple of Covenants, a few areas (

), optional bosses, etc. So much to do in this game.

Oh, lol at the Asylum Demon in NG+, I destroyed him

I'm pretty sure I was level 99 on the last boss. I'm more than that now on NG+ but it was around that ballpark. Guessing but off the top of my head in no particular order.

36 vit
40 str
40 end
20 dex
12 attunement
11 Int
20 faith

Started as the Wanderer and ended up using Lightning spear/Quelaggs fire sword/ Dragon tooth/composite lightning bow weapons with mainly Artorias Greatshield. Also a combination of Gold-hemmed and Havel's armour.

I think I actually hit all the bosses. Optional ones like the Butterfly I found rather early.

tok9 · 07-11-2011, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Kirby

Like I said, I see alot of people say twohanded is the way to go with four kings but I can only go on what I experienced.

I did the four kings on my first go, taking one at a time with the lightning spear. Shield up and poke. The damage on it doesn't scale, so your characters level is irrelevant meaning anyone can do it.

Maybe I got lucky...I dunno.... but I killed them one by one with a minimum of fuss. I never got surrounded and I wasn't that quick. If you don't move around alot, they ignore you and you can focus down one at a time.

I understand the thinking behind going two-handed for speed or if they had unblockable attacks.......but I blocked their stuff fine.

I suppose the amount of time you spend on a boss would give a person more insight. I could give you a detailed plan on how to kill Smough/Ornstein for example.....because I died the most on them. But the fights you blow through first go would seem less of a problem.

I'm not sure what you were doing but whenever i blocked with my Greatshield of Artorias +5, they damaged me nearly as much when i didn't use the shield.

Kirby · 07-11-2011, 10:02

I took no damage. did you have 40 stamina? The only thing that hurt me was the grab. You can avoid that easy enough after the first time it hits you.

tok9 · 07-11-2011, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Kirby

I took no damage. did you have 40 stamina? The only thing that hurt me was the grab. You can avoid that easy enough after the first time it hits you.

No my highest stat is strength at 34. My END is about 25 or 26 I'd be thinking.

Maybe that was is so.

GOOSEPAUL · 07-11-2011, 11:17

When i am playing the game i sometimes see white circles. What are these?

tok9 · 07-11-2011, 11:19

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Originally Posted by GOOSEPAUL

When i am playing the game i sometimes see white circles. What are these?

I assume your talking about the targeting system?

When your fighting an enemy press r3 (i think) and the circle will lock on to the nearest enemy

GOOSEPAUL · 07-11-2011, 11:21

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Originally Posted by tok9

I assume your talking about the targeting system?

When your fighting an enemy press r3 (i think) and the circle will lock on to the nearest enemy

No, I know how to target stuff

. There are small white circles on the ground and when i walk up to one my heal spell has a white circle on it. not sure what they are

noodler · 07-11-2011, 11:24

I was actually having trouble making contact with the Four Kings on a regular basis - I wonder is it something to do with the Halbred?

Will probably get another attempt in on the feckers tonight.

07-11-2011, 00:12	#1727
johnny_ultimate Production Model EVA-02 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: It's the killer. Do not die. Posts: 16,167 Adverts \| Friends Mod: PlayStation, Films	When you get down into the Tomb of Giants, there's an area where a load of tiny little skeletons constantly respawn. They drop humanity relatively regularly. Spend around twenty minutes there and you'll get the 30 humanity you need to get the Chaos Pyromancy. They drop souls too so it's a very rewarding farming spot (and thanks to however gave the tip earlier in the thread!). If you're into that sort of thing, of course - it's one of only two spots I spent anytime farming in. Unfortunately, using all those humanities and then offering each of them individually to spider lady is a long, repetitive ten minutes. Think my final tally of hours was just under sixty, and level in the mid 70s. SL would have been higher if I hadn't stocked up on every sorcery and pyromancy merchants had to offer Last edited by johnny_ultimate; 07-11-2011 at 00:17.

07-11-2011, 09:26	#1731
Kirby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,046 Adverts \| Friends	Like I said, I see alot of people say twohanded is the way to go with four kings but I can only go on what I experienced. I did the four kings on my first go, taking one at a time with the lightning spear. Shield up and poke. The damage on it doesn't scale, so your characters level is irrelevant meaning anyone can do it. Maybe I got lucky...I dunno.... but I killed them one by one with a minimum of fuss. I never got surrounded and I wasn't that quick. If you don't move around alot, they ignore you and you can focus down one at a time. I understand the thinking behind going two-handed for speed or if they had unblockable attacks.......but I blocked their stuff fine. I suppose the amount of time you spend on a boss would give a person more insight. I could give you a detailed plan on how to kill Smough/Ornstein for example.....because I died the most on them. But the fights you blow through first go would seem less of a problem. Last edited by Kirby; 07-11-2011 at 09:35.

07-11-2011, 09:43	#1732
Burning Eclipse Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arcadia Posts: 2,675 Adverts \| Friends	Would be interested in hearing peoples stats at the end of the game. I beat the final boss (but by no means completed the game) on Friday night... Think I was around Soul Level 77, took me about 45 hours to complete the thing. I bought the guide, which is lovely, and looked through it upon completion for my new game +... I missed out on loads of stuff. Couple of Covenants, a few areas (), optional bosses, etc. So much to do in this game. Oh, lol at the Asylum Demon in NG+, I destroyed him

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2smiggy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cork Posts: 1,054 Adverts \| Friends	69 hours in , level 59, have passed anor londo, sif, butterfly, and hydra. after i get out of the painted world where is best to ? i presume i have a fair bit to go yet !! i have been doing an awful lot of getting summoned though ! very enjoyable. i am in the the chaos coenant (spider lady stuck in the wall) , was thinking of leaving to join the cats one. but i have +15 pyro, and i have given her about 8 humanity. i think there is a spell for 20 humanity. its alot of effort though

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2smiggy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cork Posts: 1,054 Adverts \| Friends	grrrrrr , game froze , hope my humanity is not gone on restart me and another lad going fairly well too ...

07-11-2011, 10:02	#1735
Kirby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,046 Adverts \| Friends	I took no damage. did you have 40 stamina? The only thing that hurt me was the grab. You can avoid that easy enough after the first time it hits you.

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GOOSEPAUL Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 57 Adverts \| Friends	When i am playing the game i sometimes see white circles. What are these?

07-11-2011, 11:24	#1740
noodler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13,550 Adverts \| Friends	I was actually having trouble making contact with the Four Kings on a regular basis - I wonder is it something to do with the Halbred? Will probably get another attempt in on the feckers tonight.