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GoSlowJoe · 11-01-2011, 14:34

Hi,

First time poster, long time reader...

I've been working on producing and performing a hip hop/trip hop album for a while and I'm looking for some feedback; constructive/destructive, whatever...

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and thanks for your time

http://soundcloud.com/david-prophet-...ts/the-book-of

www.davidolearymusic.com

**iamstop** · 11-01-2011, 15:14

No time to listen now but bring it down to Sample Ed1t on Wednesday to Shebeen.
Hear it on a big system in front of a crowd and get real time feed back. Plus a free pint if you're one of the 1st 3 with a CDR.

Shapey Fiend · 11-01-2011, 15:25

Most of the production is very good. Veers into cheese in a few of the later tracks in the set list (don't like the heavy guitar stuff) but well made for the most part.

Rapping is decent. Flow is just a bit choppy. You sound like an American who's been living here for a few years (like Kounter Kulture or Exile Eye). If you're not American then I'd recommend using your own way of speaking and cadence cos jacking someone elses will hinder any sort of real progress.

Stop has no time to listen but time to plug his club night everywhere.

**Boom_Bap** · 11-01-2011, 17:20

really liking this......you dont happen to listen to a bit of SixToo by any chance?

**iamstop** · 11-01-2011, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shapey Fiend

Stop has no time to listen but time to plug his club night everywhere.

I'm in the library.

Left my headphones at home fml.

scientific1982 · 11-01-2011, 18:13

Some very good production there. Bit too down tempo for me though. More boom bap and witty wordplay would make it more accessible.

Camac Hibs · 11-01-2011, 18:34

This is really nice. Some beautiful production. I think the lyrics/vocals are good too although if your not a yank then I woudnt try and alter your natural accent, there's no point and some people might dismiss it purely on that basis.

Great stuff though, best of luck.

GoSlowJoe · 12-01-2011, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom_Bap

really liking this......you dont happen to listen to a bit of SixToo by any chance?

Afraid not.. have to admit never hearing of him/her/them before

Thank you for the feedback, didn't realize I was sounding American which will confirm that I'm not. Will look into it but I don't have a very heavy Irish accent either so...

Anyone know of a label who would give a proper listen with a view to taking on a producer/artist? I've talked to a couple of small labels already but want to talk to as many as I can..

Thanks again!

**Boom_Bap** · 12-01-2011, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoSlowJoe

Afraid not.. have to admit never hearing of him/her/them before

Thank you for the feedback, didn't realize I was sounding American which will confirm that I'm not. Will look into it but I don't have a very heavy Irish accent either so...

Anyone know of a label who would give a proper listen with a view to taking on a producer/artist? I've talked to a couple of small labels already but want to talk to as many as I can..

Thanks again!

You should check Sixtoo out, excellent producer and good lyricist. He started out in a band with Buck 65 called the 1200 Hobo's. Here's a taste

I wouldnt worry about your accent, if it's your natural accent the roll with it. Years ago when i done some recording i sounded like a old Dublin cleaning lady that smokes 80 Rothmans a day

Labels......that's tricky. It's a matter of getting your name out there and some live shows under your belt. Maybe some of the Irish rappers that post here could help out.

GoSlowJoe · 12-01-2011, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom_Bap

I wouldnt worry about your accent, if it's your natural accent the roll with it. Years ago when i done some recording i sounded like a old Dublin cleaning lady that smokes 80 Rothmans a day

Labels......that's tricky. It's a matter of getting your name out there and some live shows under your belt. Maybe some of the Irish rappers that post here could help out.

Lol... You never know, there's bound to be someone who would dig that kind of sound

Labels are the tricky part and if any rappers out there are interested in either collaborations or in getting tracks produced/mixed or mastered... pm me!

Thanks for the feedback

Shapey Fiend · 12-01-2011, 13:28

Ah right, defo need to ditch the accent. Listen to some Irish hip hop you'll probably pick up some pointers. No need to sound like your from the flats or anything, can have a neutral dublin accent like.

I'd forget about getting signed. There's only ever been one Irish rap group that I know of signed to a label (that isn't some boutique self published label) who were Scary Eire and even then their album got shelved and didn't come out for 13 years. Nowadays you don't want or need a label unless you're a huge artist.

GoSlowJoe · 12-01-2011, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shapey Fiend

I'd forget about getting signed. There's only ever been one Irish rap group that I know of signed to a label (that isn't some boutique self published label) who were Scary Eire and even then their album got shelved and didn't come out for 13 years. Nowadays you don't want or need a label unless you're a huge artist.

What about Messiah J or the Rubberbandits? I'm completley ignorant here so I don't even know if either one is signed to a major label or small independent.

I'm well aware of the current situ and trying to sell music as an independent, I'm just trying to move industries and produce/perform for a living i.e. get a wage to do this full time. Offers?!

**Boom_Bap** · 12-01-2011, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoSlowJoe

What about Messiah J or the Rubberbandits? I'm completley ignorant here so I don't even know if either one is signed to a major label or small independent.

I'm well aware of the current situ and trying to sell music as an independent, I'm just trying to move industries and produce/perform for a living i.e. get a wage to do this full time. Offers?!

MJEX have thier own label that they release on, not sure about Rubberbandits.

Have you performed at all yet?

GoSlowJoe · 12-01-2011, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom_Bap

MJEX have thier own label that they release on, not sure about Rubberbandits.

Have you performed at all yet?

Not as a rapper, no. I Dj and drum too so I've been doing that for a long time but taking centre stage with only a mic to hide behind will be very new. I'm only now beginning to discover/explore all of this, any advice?

Shapey Fiend · 12-01-2011, 20:22

What I mean is there isn't any label that isn't just used as self publishing. It's not like MJEX are running about scouting artists to sign. There are probably 50 of those around the place but they're not signing people.

The Rubberbandits could potentially get signed. But they're just self publishing really. That was one of the main reasons they got so hammered in the XMas number 1 race. They didn't have the distrubution a proper label like Syco would have.

Scary Eire got signed to Island Records.

As I said it's not really important now anyway. You can just publish your stuff on the internet. Selling CD's still seems to be somewhat important for singles but it'll be all download in another few years.

11-01-2011, 14:34	#1
GoSlowJoe Closed Account Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 12 Adverts \| Friends	Need some honest feedback Hi, First time poster, long time reader... I've been working on producing and performing a hip hop/trip hop album for a while and I'm looking for some feedback; constructive/destructive, whatever... Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and thanks for your time http://soundcloud.com/david-prophet-...ts/the-book-of www.davidolearymusic.com

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Shapey Fiend Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,023 Adverts \| Friends	What I mean is there isn't any label that isn't just used as self publishing. It's not like MJEX are running about scouting artists to sign. There are probably 50 of those around the place but they're not signing people. The Rubberbandits could potentially get signed. But they're just self publishing really. That was one of the main reasons they got so hammered in the XMas number 1 race. They didn't have the distrubution a proper label like Syco would have. Scary Eire got signed to Island Records. As I said it's not really important now anyway. You can just publish your stuff on the internet. Selling CD's still seems to be somewhat important for singles but it'll be all download in another few years. Last edited by Shapey Fiend; 12-01-2011 at 20:24.

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11-01-2011, 15:14	#2
iamstop Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,507 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Soul & R 'n' B & Funk	No time to listen now but bring it down to Sample Ed1t on Wednesday to Shebeen. Hear it on a big system in front of a crowd and get real time feed back. Plus a free pint if you're one of the 1st 3 with a CDR.

11-01-2011, 15:25	#3
Shapey Fiend Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,023 Adverts \| Friends	Most of the production is very good. Veers into cheese in a few of the later tracks in the set list (don't like the heavy guitar stuff) but well made for the most part. Rapping is decent. Flow is just a bit choppy. You sound like an American who's been living here for a few years (like Kounter Kulture or Exile Eye). If you're not American then I'd recommend using your own way of speaking and cadence cos jacking someone elses will hinder any sort of real progress. Stop has no time to listen but time to plug his club night everywhere.

11-01-2011, 17:20	#4
Boom_Bap Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 4,333 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Experimental Music, Hip-Hop, Soul & R 'n' B & Funk	really liking this......you dont happen to listen to a bit of SixToo by any chance?

11-01-2011, 18:13	#6
scientific1982 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,548 Adverts \| Friends	Some very good production there. Bit too down tempo for me though. More boom bap and witty wordplay would make it more accessible.

11-01-2011, 18:34	#7
Camac Hibs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rooftop Posts: 371 Adverts \| Friends	This is really nice. Some beautiful production. I think the lyrics/vocals are good too although if your not a yank then I woudnt try and alter your natural accent, there's no point and some people might dismiss it purely on that basis. Great stuff though, best of luck.

12-01-2011, 13:28	#11
Shapey Fiend Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,023 Adverts \| Friends	Ah right, defo need to ditch the accent. Listen to some Irish hip hop you'll probably pick up some pointers. No need to sound like your from the flats or anything, can have a neutral dublin accent like. I'd forget about getting signed. There's only ever been one Irish rap group that I know of signed to a label (that isn't some boutique self published label) who were Scary Eire and even then their album got shelved and didn't come out for 13 years. Nowadays you don't want or need a label unless you're a huge artist.