Originally Posted by Liam Byrne
What may have happened is that we've finally realised that SOME Irish people are completely untrustworthy and should be let nowhere near responsibility, and to be fair, that's something that has dawned on use about lots of other professions, from bankers & developers to priests.
What we, as a society, need to learn is how to prevent the scum reaching the top.
If we manage that, then we'll have learned a valuable lesson.
Unfortunately, I don't think we can learn that lesson.
There was a thread in After Hours
a few weeks ago about a student lying his way into Harvard. It summed up the Irish way of thinking pretty well - quite a few of the responses were along the lines of: g'wan ya boyo ya, fair play to him, showing it to the administration! If that's what a large fraction of this country is thinking, then is it any wonder we are governed by a bunch of corrupt, lying scum who handsomely reward other corrupt, lying scum with bailouts and vast amounts of protection?
Originally Posted by eoinoleary
maby we have made a balls of plenty of stuff but as for punching above our weight per capita we are far above pretty much everybody....they celebrate paddys day all over the world for christs sake...how many "america day" or god forbid "Britan day" parades do you see going down the main streets of cities the world over annually...maby we would have better infrastructer if we remained within the uk but i for 1 would rather have pothole filled roads and be goverened by a bunch of gombeens than be ruled by some galavanised ****e in london or anywer else for that matter....they may be gombeens and corrupted ****s but there ours and we elected them and have the freedom to unelect them...so thanks but ill have my ****ty roads and buildings anyday...infrastructure is no reward for the lack of soverinty and self determanation...
I think feicim
hit the nail on the head - Paddy's day is a sign of how many Irish people have left this country seeking a better life. It's not because the rest of the world thought long, long ago that the Irish are great craic altogether, sure we'll join in on their annual celebration! It's the vast amounts of Irish all over the world who have emigrated - and continue to emigrate - that carried on celebrating Patrick's Day in their new homes.
The fact Patrick's Day is so big is an indicator to me that something is deeply, deeply wrong with this country that we have enough Irish emigrants to make our annual celebration have a worldwide influence to the extent that it does.
As for "they may be corrupt but at least they're ours", my mind boggles. We'll never get any better with an attitude like that. Not that it's exactly accurate anymore - the EU and IMF are pulling the strings now.