[Sam Vimes]

Originally Posted by prinz

Fine, his own possible criminality. Either way it's still hypocritical.

It's absolutely hypocritical to expose criminality while trying to hide your own, we're agreed there. But how is it hypocritical to expose criminality while trying to avoid being framed

[Jagera]

Originally Posted by seamus

The truth unfortunately will not always out, justice is not always served.

I was thinking the same. The poor chap is buggered, he's ruffled feathers at the very top. Innocent or guilty, he will have a few hard months/years ahead.

[Nodin]

Originally Posted by prinz

Fine, his own possible criminality. Either way it's still hypocritical. Anywho my stance has nothing to do with Assange personally or the website. .

No, no.....its just a coincidence....

Originally Posted by Prinz

I hate Wikileaks. There I said it. No time for them, their spokespeople or their deeds.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...83&postcount=3

[twinQuins]

Originally Posted by biko

Sweden’s Supreme Court recently overturned two rape convictions where the woman’s testimony was the only evidence admitted.

In fairness, it would be a pretty damning indictment of the judicial system if a sentence could be made solely on the testimony of the prosecution.

[HarryPotter41]

Originally Posted by Sam Vimes

It's absolutely hypocritical to expose criminality while trying to hide your own, we're agreed there. But how is it hypocritical to expose criminality while trying to avoid being framed

Framed? Really? Think about it, the most powerful government in the world wants to frame him the best they are going to come up with is some half assed rape charge?

[Sam Vimes]

Originally Posted by HarryPotter41

Framed? Really? Think about it, the most powerful government in the world wants to frame him the best they are going to come up with is some half assed rape charge?

Again, I'm not saying he was framed. I'm saying it's a possibility

[prinz]

Originally Posted by Sam Vimes

It's absolutely hypocritical to expose criminality while trying to hide your own, we're agreed there. But how is it hypocritical to expose criminality while trying to avoid being framed

Anyone can claim to be being "framed", concern about being "framed" is not a get-out-of-jail-free card from any charges that may or may not be levelled against you. If you are that concerned with justice you'd have enough faith in it to allow it's course continue unhindered.

Originally Posted by Nodin

No, no.....its just a coincidence....

When you start repeating posts it's time to log off.

[Nodin]

Originally Posted by HarryPotter41

Framed? Really? Think about it, the most powerful government in the world wants to frame him the best they are going to come up with is some half assed rape charge?

Its a major blemish on his character if proven, a minor even if not - particularily useful for discrediting him in the US.

[Nodin]

Originally Posted by prinz

...........
When you start repeating posts it's time to log off.

You were being inconsistent. I was just being nice and reminding you.

[Sam Vimes]

Originally Posted by prinz

Anyone can claim to be being "framed", concern about being "framed" is not a get-out-of-jail-free card from any charges that may or may not be levelled against you. If you are that concerned with justice you'd have enough faith in it to allow it's course continue unhindered.

And you wouldn't consider it a possibility that when two women you had consensual sex with are now claiming that it was not consensual, leaving you in a position where it's your word against theirs, that justice has already been "hindered"?

[HarryPotter41]

Originally Posted by Nodin

Its a major blemish on his character if proven, a minor even if not - particularily useful for discrediting him in the US.

Well rape should be a major blemish on your character if proven!!! And discrediting him will not make him go away. The conspiracy theorists really should read the allegations and see how poor they are. They wanted to stitch him up then they could do much better than that.

[prinz]

Originally Posted by Nodin

You were being inconsistent. I was just being nice and reminding you.

Actually I wasn't. On this thread I have been referring to Assange. The other thread was dealing with wikileaks the website. Unlike many people here I can take each separately, and not assume Assange is being framed because of wikileaks. It's for this reason I mentioned the Irishman wanted in Hungary. He too should be handed over.

Originally Posted by Sam Vimes

And you wouldn't consider it a possibility that when two women you had consensual sex with are now claiming that it was not consensual, leaving you in a position where it's your word against theirs, that justice has already been "hindered"?

That's up to a court of law to decide surely. It may well be the case and he could be found innocent. What then? Will the people on this thread continue to believe he was framed? It would raise reluctance but then again maybe we should stop drifting in and out of hypotheticals, it's getting us nowhere. Like I said, I'd rather fight my corner in a court of law than running away and shouting from the sidelines safely out of reach.

[Sam Vimes]

Originally Posted by prinz

It would raise reluctance

Which is the one and only point I was making. kthxbye

[prinz]

Originally Posted by Sam Vimes

Which is the one and only point I was making. kthxbye

Congratulations on making that truly crucial point.

[Biggins]

The charges are a load of crap - see HERE