[Dannyboy83]

Nigel Farage criticise the destruction of democratic rights in Ireland
Warns of consequences of Nationalism/Despair
Hopes for end of the EMU

Interesting video.
I'm not sure he is raising any new points, but I've never seen such a high level person say it, nor say it to the high level people.

[meglome]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy83

Nigel Farage criticise the destruction of democratic rights
Warns of consequences of Nationalism/Despair
Hopes for end of the EMU

Interesting video.
I'm not sure he is raising any new points, but I've never seen such a high level person say it, nor say it to the high level people.

I'll give the video a watch but honestly I'd almost believe Cowan over Nigel Farage.

[Dannyboy83]

I wouldn't.

Rumour tonight is that the EU are looking for collateral
And the interest rate for the bailout is 6%, which is a guaranteed default.


I've always been pro-eu, but this is not looking good.

[Corsendonk]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy83

I wouldn't.

Rumour tonight is that the EU are looking for collateral
And the interest rate for the bailout is 6%, which is a guaranteed default.


I've always been pro-eu, but this is not looking good.

Yeap that word again rumour, I prefer facts myself. The lowest quoted interest rate from the bonds markets last week for Ireland was 8% and if your rumour is correct the EU wants 6%. Did you really expect they were going to give us the money and not demand interest?

[kaiser sauze]

Originally Posted by Corsendonk

Yeap that word again rumour, I prefer facts myself. The lowest quoted interest rate from the bonds markets last week for Ireland was 8% and if your rumour is correct the EU wants 6%. Did you really expect they were going to give us the money and not demand interest?

For fecks sake! That's not what he meant.

The are entitled to expect some interest, but if they are going to set a rate like that, why bother? We are approaching them because we expect to get more favourable terms from them, is only 2-3% less than the bond markets really helping us out?

Realistically, we need an interest free overdraft, but that is never going to happen. Even the Greek rate (5%) is probably not manageable either. If they do set an exorbitant rate like this, Morgan Kelly will have been proved right once again.

[nesf]

Eh, Nigel Farage isn't high level...

Possibly the highest a troll has gotten in the political system though..

[robbyvibes]

Originally Posted by Corsendonk

Yeap that word again rumour, I prefer facts myself. The lowest quoted interest rate from the bonds markets last week for Ireland was 8% and if your rumour is correct the EU wants 6%. Did you really expect they were going to give us the money and not demand interest?

"solidarity" from the EU?

It doesn't matter at this point how much ireland gets, it wont be enough to fix the banks mess.

But why should banks care? they're not the ones paying for it...

[Dipsy]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KAWXC5Z0wU
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Nigel Farage criticise the destruction of democratic rights in Ireland
Warns of consequences of Nationalism/Despair
Hopes for end of the EMU

Interesting video.
I'm not sure he is raising any new points, but I've never seen such a high level person say it, nor say it to the high level people.

Thanks for posting, I seen it last night.

Personally I think Nigel is spot on, he has spirit and the balls to stand up to the rest of the criminals in the EU. He stood up for Ireland during the Lisbon Treaty fiasco and we can see now he was 100% right!!!!

He is never afraid to speak his mind over there and I applaud him for that!!

Kudos Nigel, you are doing more than our lot!!!

[meglome]

Originally Posted by Dipsy

Thanks for posting, I seen it last night.

Personally I think Nigel is spot on, he has spirit and the balls to stand up to the rest of the criminals in the EU. He stood up for Ireland during the Lisbon Treaty fiasco and we can see now he was 100% right!!!!

He is never afraid to speak his mind over there and I applaud him for that!!

Kudos Nigel, you are doing more than our lot!!!

Pretty please can people stop bringing the Lisbon treaty into this. It has nothing to do with where we're at. The seeds of what has happened here were sown years before the Lisbon treaty.

It's showing anti-EU bias and little else.

[Dipsy]

Originally Posted by meglome

Pretty please can people stop bringing the Lisbon treaty into this. It has nothing to do with where we're at. The seeds of what has happened here were sown years before the Lisbon treaty.

It's showing anti-EU bias and little else.

Completley agree with you!! This whole thing has been orchestrated years in advance!!

I was merely pointing out that he put himself out there for Ireland during the Lisbon treaty too which is more than our own are doing.

[meglome]

Originally Posted by Dipsy

I was merely pointing out that he put himself out there for Ireland during the Lisbon treaty too which is more than our own are doing.

And what I'm saying is during the Lisbon treaty debate he told a pack of lies. So why should I believe him now?

A comment from youtube on that video...

These governments including ours here in the US have all been infiltrated using Fabian tactics by the Zionist Jews to intentionally bring down any sovereign nation. Their goal is to destroy the existing nation states any way possible and form a one world government with the UN & NATO controlling everything. If this is allowed to continue then it will be a matter of time before we are all tagged with RFID & the unlucky ones (the Goyum) will be sent to the camps for extermination

If that's who his supporters are you've got to wonder.

[Dipsy]

Originally Posted by meglome

And what I'm saying is during the Lisbon treaty debate he told a pack of lies. So why should I believe him now?

I genuinely dont recall any of the lies he told Perhaps you can remind me, refresh my memory??

[reprazant]

The leader of an anti-Europe party calls for the end of the Euro, and goes on an anti-EU rant and people say he he is telling the truth? As if he is now saying something that he hasn't been saying from the day he got there?

Are people now blaming the EU for our mess? Because I am pretty sure this is a homegrown mess of our own creation.

[meglome]

Originally Posted by Dipsy

I genuinely dont recall any of the lies he told Perhaps you can remind me, refresh my memory??

No problem

http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/truth-...the-treaty.pdf

And I'll start you off...

From our Labour court

It has come to the Court’s attention that a leaflet being distributed by the UK Independence Party, in relation to the referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, contains a serious misrepresentation of a decision of the Labour Court in a case concerning the applicability of an Registered Employment Agreement to electrical contractors based outside this jurisdiction.

The leaflet implies that contractors from other member states are not bound by the terms of such regulations. It seeks to rely on a decision of the Labour Court as authority for that proposition. The Court made no such decision and in fact decided the opposite in the case to which the leaflet refers.

The leaflet contains what purports to be a quote from the decision in question (Determination No.REP091) which has been altered so as to totally change its import.

That case concerned a claim by certain employers in the electrical contracting industry that the Registered Agreement for that Industry should be cancelled on the grounds, inter alia, that EU law prevents its application to contractors based outside the State. Having reviewed the current state of national and Community law, and relevant decisions of the European Court of Justice, the Court concluded that statutory regulations and agreements on pay and conditions of employment, which are legally binding in Ireland, are applicable to and enforceable against all employers operating within this jurisdiction irrespective of their country of origin.

It is neither the practice nor the desire of the Labour Court to engage in public controversy in relation to its decisions. However in circumstances in which one of its decisions is being seriously misrepresented for political purposes the Court considers it to be its duty to put the record straight.

End

Kevin Duffy
Chairman

18th September 2009.

Note: The full text of Determination No. REP091 can be obtained on the Court’s web site Home . The relevant passages are to be found in Section 32, at paragraphs 32.1 to 32.12 inclusive

I could go through all the rubbish in the leaflet but I've better things to do.

[kenneth5]

It's a poor state of affairs when we have to rely on a right wing British MEP to stand up for us. Where are all the Irish MEP's and why aren't they going ape over Rehn trying to tell us what to do?