[OldGoat]

A feminists view of posing and of what burlesque means.
Lucy Rhinehart poses and deliberates for Dr. Sketchys.

http://www.drsketchysdublin.com/?p=300

[Jessibelle]

One of the things I love about burlseque is the fact that for most women (and some men ) any negativity regarding body image is not to be tolerated and that burlesque is about showing off your beauty, whatever your size, shape or colour. It may sound facile, but, as a woman who, no matter how hard she tries to ignore it, cannot help but notice the pressure to be thin and ‘beautiful’, and that has on occaision caused me to sit and examine in minutae how my fat thighs, stomach and bum wobbled, anything which embraces the femminine form in all shapes and that leaves you feeling so amazingly sexy is one worth celebrating. In burlesque classes, the emphasis is not how to please men, but how to enjoy ourselves, to enjoy our sexuality, the thrill of the tease etc. This, to me, is empowering to women, which is one of the main tennants of feminism I believe.

[Mr. Loverman]

Feminism should be about every woman living her life the way she wants to live it and not having to worry about prejudice holding her back.

Therefore questions like "Is there any room in feminism for burlesque, nudity, the art of the tease?" don't make any sense.

Trying to control women's behaviour under the guise of feminism is retarded, i.e. if a woman wants to take her clothes off that's her own choice and should not be considered a victim or analysed by a pseudo intellectual.

[The Pony Girls]

well put Mr Loverman!

[queera]

Hi Mr Loverman,

I wrote that blog and I see your point, however thats what I was trying to get at in the piece. Some forms of feminism arent founded on freedom of choice.
My point is that that is precisely what it should be about.

C

Originally Posted by Mr. Loverman

Feminism should be about every woman living her life the way she wants to live it and not having to worry about prejudice holding her back.

Therefore questions like "Is there any room in feminism for burlesque, nudity, the art of the tease?" don't make any sense.

Trying to control women's behaviour under the guise of feminism is retarded, i.e. if a woman wants to take her clothes off that's her own choice and should not be considered a victim or analysed by a pseudo intellectual.

[Shazwanda]

Originally Posted by The Pony Girls

well put Mr Loverman!

I am AMAZED that The Pony Burds would applaud Mr. Loverman - who clearly didn't read the (VERY articulate) blog through - and not support their fellow burlesque babe, Lucy Rhineheart!
This, right here, is the ACTUAL problem with feminism...or with females trying to express themselves in a way that is accepted by EVERYONE...it is unfortunately mostly other females who wish to clip their wings.

Please take a moment to read Mz Rhineheart's blog through properly and give it the credit it deserves. If anyone is supposed to be supporting women in burlesque and performance art at the moment, I would have thought The Pony Girls and Sideshow were at the top of the list!

(Very disappointed) Shazwanda x

[Mr. Loverman]

I did read the article.

Let's take the first few lines:

Is there any room in feminism for burlesque, nudity, the art of the tease? See, I say yes, and some other folks say no. Often, it depends what you mean when you say the sometimes contested word “burlesque”. Burlesque means to send up, it is “derisive imitation, grotesque parody”….but it’s sad to think that people reduce burlesque to stripping.

I interpreted this as "burlesque is good, stripping is bad". Hence why I posted above.

[Shazwanda]

Originally Posted by Mr. Loverman

I did read the article.

Let's take the first few lines:

I interpreted this as "burlesque is good, stripping is bad". Hence why I posted above.

Oh ok, so you read it, you just didn't understand it. Poor thing

[Splinter]

Hi folks, just a friendly note, let's try keep this civil and on track

Thanks,
Splinter

[OldGoat]

Just to play Devils advocate and stir it up a bit...

The march of feminism has won women the right to pose, strip, burlesque, dance, provoke et.al. but is it right for them to do so? I'll not argue with your right to undress for payment/amusment but just because you can does not mean that you should.
Parading around in your skimpies in public is seen by many (most?) people not just demeaning but a slap in the face for those who are trying to dignify the role of women in modern society.

[Mr. Loverman]

Originally Posted by Shazwanda

Oh ok, so you read it, you just didn't understand it. Poor thing

Awww nice person. Well done.

@Oldgoat: I agree a lot of people see it as demeaning, but I think that is because most people have issues with sex, gender issues, etc.

[The Pony Girls]

NO disrespect to Queera at all, just agree with Mr Lovermans point

"Feminism should be about every woman living her life the way she wants to live it and not having to worry about prejudice holding her back."

Probably should have made that clearer...

[Josh_Calvert]

My 2cents: Burlesque allows women to break out the inner slut.Not sure whether this is good or bad but it's usually the opposite of sexy.

[Splinter]

The opposite of sexy? Can't say I agree to be honest, where/what/who have you seen that gave you this bad an impression of burlesque?

[Josh_Calvert]

Ive seen a few shows at uni and then just out and about..even my local has a burlesque show now and then...but then sexy is different for different people..