[purplepanda]

Originally Posted by mayomaffia

Your post is looking fairly pathetic now, The minister from Wexford announcing roads in wexford at the expense of others and your giving out about parish pump,

The New Ross Bypass will benefit three counties not one. It improves trading & transport connections between the UK / Europe through to the South East ports & Cork & the SW regions.

It is a nationally important route which crosses Ireland's second largest river which has been needed for decades.

Which projects should be top of the list instead, Greater Dublin, Limerick, Cork, Galway city & adjacent regions excepted?

[cargo]

Originally Posted by veryangryman

I think that Newlands Cross, Gorey-Arklow, the Galway bypass, Adare bypass and possibly even ClareGalway would have been bigger bottlenecks. So you cant help wondering if he prioritised them being a local rather than for national importance (even if there is some need for them). Dublin-Rosslare? Who is travelling by road from Dublin to Rosslare other than the odd caravan holiday? You use one port or the other.

I do of course understand that its the shovel ready schemes that are getting the look in.

Actually a lot of trucks leave Dublin and head down the coast to Rosslare Port rather than use Dublin Port. You're forgetting you have to drive when you get off the ferry at the other side also and most trucks prefer the route across the UK from Rosslare. If you ever travel the Dub Wex route you can tell when ferries have landed in Rosslare by the pattern of commercial traffic you meet on the route.

[veryangryman]

Originally Posted by cargo

Actually a lot of trucks leave Dublin and head down the coast to Rosslare Port rather than use Dublin Port. You're forgetting you have to drive when you get off the ferry at the other side also and most trucks prefer the route across the UK from Rosslare. If you ever travel the Dub Wex route you can tell when ferries have landed in Rosslare by the pattern of commercial traffic you meet on the route.

Fair enough but i dont get their logic (mileage i guess).

Pick any point on google maps (Limerick, Waterford, even Wexford) and select to goto London. They pick best route via Dublin port every time. Only exception is when your starting point is Rosslare!

[cargo]

Originally Posted by veryangryman

Fair enough but i dont get their logic (mileage i guess).

Pick any point on google maps (Limerick, Waterford, even Wexford) and select to goto London. They pick best route via Dublin port every time. Only exception is when your starting point is Rosslare!

It's more to do with the condition of the roads than the distance. Ironically enough they're better at this side so some truckers rather clock up the mileage on this side of the water rather than the far side.

[bkehoe]

Originally Posted by veryangryman

Fair enough but i dont get their logic (mileage i guess).

Pick any point on google maps (Limerick, Waterford, even Wexford) and select to goto London. They pick best route via Dublin port every time. Only exception is when your starting point is Rosslare!

Waterford to London via Dublin port would add around 160KM onto the journey. Wexford via Dublin would add almost 200KM. I'd never do this in my car - I live in Wexford and the only times I go to the UK via Dublin port is if I can get the HSS/Swift and am going somewhere no further south than Birmingham. A lorry driver is even less likely to want to do this as the extra cost of fuel would be significant!

[veryangryman]

Originally Posted by bkehoe

Waterford to London via Dublin port would add around 160KM onto the journey. Wexford via Dublin would add almost 200KM. I'd never do this in my car - I live in Wexford and the only times I go to the UK via Dublin port is if I can get the HSS/Swift and am going somewhere no further south than Birmingham. A lorry driver is even less likely to want to do this as the extra cost of fuel would be significant!

I think driving the extra couple of hours is fairly taxing on ones own personal time. Plus you probably have to stop for a break the extra time with the bad roads. Trade off with both I guess

[K3v]

Is there anywhere I could see an image of the proposed bridge?

[MYOB]

Originally Posted by veryangryman

I think driving the extra couple of hours is fairly taxing on ones own personal time. Plus you probably have to stop for a break the extra time with the bad roads. Trade off with both I guess

For a trucker, the hours destroy how much they can drive the other side when they get there (tacograph limits). More direct route even if its a much longer boat or worse roads = what they'll go for.

[jd]

Originally Posted by K3v

Is there anywhere I could see an image of the proposed bridge?

Took a bit of searching but at http://www.mottmac.ie/files/page/444..._websecure.pdf

I found the following (fwiw)

[bkehoe]

Originally Posted by veryangryman

I think driving the extra couple of hours is fairly taxing on ones own personal time. Plus you probably have to stop for a break the extra time with the bad roads. Trade off with both I guess

Where are the bad roads? Fishguard/Pembroke to London has about 30 miles of good quality single carriageway with bypasses of the towns along the way and then it's dual carriageway and motorway all the way to London. No traffic chaos around the M42 at Birmingham to deal with either.

[mike65]

5 mile tailbacks on the Waterford side of the bridge this morning, back to the Rue Glen according to AA Roadwatch

I wonder who thought holding the National Ploughing Championships at such a bottle neck would be a good idea?

[NedNew2]

12km tailbacks according to the Irish Independent, which sounds about right to the Rhu Glenn.

That's where the Waterford bypass starts (eastern side)

[man98]

If there was a Rosslare Waterford rail link was open there wouldn't be half as much que's. It would be much easier and if there was a bus service between Campile or Ballycullane and Ballinaboola

[Carawaystick]

Originally Posted by man98

If there was a Rosslare Waterford rail link was open there wouldn't be half as much que's. It would be much easier and if there was a bus service between Campile or Ballycullane and Ballinaboola

If the new ross line was open and the bridge across to the mile tunnel was working then that'd be even better and about as realistic...

[munchkin_utd]

The indo is now reporting that this project is to go live!

The National Roads Authority (NRA) will today ask private companies to submit bids to construct the New Ross bypass, which will be the biggest road project ever built in Co Wexford.

The road, which will not be tolled, will include a 900-metre bridge over the River Barrow.

The scheme is expected to cost €215m, which includes the land necessary to build the road, and it is hoped that work will begin in 2015 and end in 2017.<snip>

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-29144623.html