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16-09-2010, 15:28   #16
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From the NCT website. (This should go into the scam thread)

You may be able to obtain an estimate of the VRT due from the Vehicle Registration on-line Enquiry System. While Revenue maintains an accurate valuation for all vehicles on its database, because of the variety of makes, models and versions available, the vehicle presented for registration at an NCT centre may differ significantly from a similar one on Revenue’s database resulting in a significant difference in the VRT charged to the amount you expected.
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.... the vehicle presented for registration at an NCT centre may differ significantly from a similar one on Revenue’s database


So, you wont have a clue what VRT is gonna be, until the car is presented an an NCT centre.....

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You may be able to obtain an estimate of the VRT due from the Vehicle Registration on-line Enquiry System. While Revenue maintains an accurate valuation for all vehicles on its database, because of the variety of makes, models and versions available, the vehicle presented for registration at an NCT centre may differ significantly from a similar one on Revenue’s database resulting in a significant difference in the VRT charged to the amount you expected.
That's outrageous, so is the ROS site not worth a damn anymore?
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It never really was!
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16-09-2010, 15:33   #19
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That's outrageous, so is the ROS site not worth a damn anymore?
Of course it is - a figure for a specific model on the ROS website should allow you to extrapolate a relatively accurate figure for a slightly different specification.
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Of course it is - a figure for a specific model on the ROS website should allow you to extrapolate a relatively accurate figure for a slightly different specification.
You'd want serious powers of extrapolation to come up with an actual rate of €2500 from a ROS quoted €728. Particularly when mine is a standard SE model i.e. it doesn't have sunroof, electric seats etc.
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You'd want serious powers of extrapolation to come up with an actual rate of €2500 from a ROS quoted €728. Particularly when mine is a standard SE model i.e. it doesn't have sunroof, electric seats etc.
What a scam. So let me get this straight. You do your budget, figure out you'll go for the SE lets say over the sport because of the vrt ROS quote you for both. You present your se spec at the nct center and get hit for a grand over budget? What will you do with the car? Bring it back to England? This is a scam. It also states that you have to provide a dated invoice. So what about private sales then?
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Scam!

Scam - it's a complete racket.

"get hit for a grand over budget?" - I'm getting hit for nearly two grand over budget (€1772 to be precise).

Invoice: It was a private sale - so you just sign a piece of paper saying how much you paid for the car. I was being honest and said I paid 4K for the car.

I'm not going to bring it in now - I'll sell it back in the UK. Which is a shame as it's absolutely beautiful (it's an SE with AC Schnitzer suspension -something the VRT people would not have known) - I was looking for over 6 months for it as the 330i manual estate with sports suspension is quite rare.

It's a complete scam - they are just trying to create uncertainty in the VRT process so that people will be less likely to import cars from the UK. As in, would I import a car again? - Not a hope. Would I recommend to someone to import a car? - Not a hope.
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Scam - it's a complete racket.

"get hit for a grand over budget?" - I'm getting hit for nearly two grand over budget (€1772 to be precise).

Invoice: It was a private sale - so you just sign a piece of paper saying how much you paid for the car. I was being honest and said I paid 4K for the car.

I'm not going to bring it in now - I'll sell it back in the UK. Which is a shame as it's absolutely beautiful (it's an SE with AC Schnitzer suspension -something the VRT people would not have known) - I was looking for over 6 months for it as the 330i manual estate with sports suspension is quite rare.

It's a complete scam - they are just trying to create uncertainty in the VRT process so that people will be less likely to import cars from the UK. As in, would I import a car again? - Not a hope. Would I recommend to someone to import a car? - Not a hope.
Yeah you are correct there about their intentions. Call Joe Duffy
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You'd want serious powers of extrapolation to come up with an actual rate of €2500 from a ROS quoted €728. Particularly when mine is a standard SE model i.e. it doesn't have sunroof, electric seats etc.
That is well off. Is this current? If so, can you post the exact car details? Not saying you did, but i've heard lots of stories of people inadvertently entering the wrong details on the ROS website - E36 instead of E46, that sort of thing.
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i just entered it and got very close figures

i reckon he read out the omsp not the vrt
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It never really was!
i've imported about 6 time sand always paid nearly or acually exactly what the vrt calculator gave me

so i dont know what you mean
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I don't believe that the VRT calculator accurately reflects the Irish prices of cars and for that reason, I don't think its worth a damn.
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That is well off. Is this current? If so, can you post the exact car details? Not saying you did, but i've heard lots of stories of people inadvertently entering the wrong details on the ROS website - E36 instead of E46, that sort of thing.
BMW e46 330i SE
Year:2000 (July)
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130000 miles

I thought the girl in the NCT had made a mistake ... but she just shook her head and said "no mistake". Anyway it would be fairly difficult to mix up the VRT and the OMSP because on the "Declaration" form printout the OMSP is suspiciously absent. It seems to be all done on the VIN number.

They basically take the VIN number, slice and dice it to see what the car has. Which is a joke on a 10 year old car because the VIN number is not going to tell you what shape the suspension is in, tyre condition, if the gear box is hanging off the thing, whether its been Cat D'd etc.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark - I tell you.
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This new system stinks to high heaven. Having said that, do 90% of appeals for VRT overcharging get overturned?
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SIMI lobbying must have worked then!
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