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Captainship · 13-08-2010, 07:14

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Originally Posted by cushtac

Most of Europe has either done away with conscription or is in the process of doing so.

Not Norway,but then again i don think they are planning on going to war either,maybe thats why its called defence forces

cushtac · 13-08-2010, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Captainship

Not Norway,but then again i don think they are planning on going to war either,maybe thats why its called defence forces

Norway is a NATO member, it had troops in Iraq and currently has troops in Afghanistan.

Captainship · 13-08-2010, 11:13

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Originally Posted by cushtac

Norway is a NATO member, it had troops in Iraq and currently has troops in Afghanistan.

So Whats that got to to with it,they still use conscripts,which make up their defence forces.
I thought that was what this thread was about!!!!

cushtac · 13-08-2010, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Captainship

So Whats that got to to with it,they still use conscripts,which make up their defence forces.
I thought that was what this thread was about!!!!

You brought it up, I would have thought you'd know what it has to do with it.

You said they weren't planning on going to war, I pointed out two recent conflicts they've taken part in.

Captainship · 13-08-2010, 12:43

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Originally Posted by cushtac

You brought it up, I would have thought you'd know what it has to do with it.

You said they weren't planning on going to war, I pointed out two recent conflicts they've taken part in.

I know they are part of Nato,and i know they have troops in Afghanistan,but the soldiers abroad are not part of the Conscript defence forces,they are professionals.

Cork24 · 13-08-2010, 14:50

professionals.. if you were Conscript into the Army it is now you job. you job is to serve your Country in any shape or form. if it goes to work then you do your bit.

Ireland are in Afghan.. for a country that had Men in almost Every War their was, we don't act like it. For a Country as Small as Ireland we need a bigger voice in Europe.. We just a ****ing Mouse In a Dogs World when it comes to Europe. We Voted No to the last Treaty.. Hell Europe was going to push on with out us. that's how little we are to them. We need Europe. we need to grow a bigger pair of Balls and Join NATO put more money into our Forces, Show the rest of Europe were Ready to more with you in keeping Euro Zone Safe and Free from anykind of Attack..

We Cant even Stop a couple of guys running around with masks calling them self's the Real IRA.. so how are we meant to stop some Muslim who would love to kill Every one that makes fun of the Muslim World?

Holland is just as Small as Ireland and Yet it seems to have more of a voice in Europe why as it all comes down to Power in which Power we dont have and people are saying we dont need a bigger Army Navy or Air.

Nato was build to stop Russia now Russia are apart of it. What does it tell us? if were not in it we can not Ask for their help if we ever need it?

So.. if we did go to War in any place and a couple of professionals as you call them got killed we never hear the end of it. but yet if some one in a Building Line went to Work and fell off a building or a Mother five died in a Car Crash. We go Ahh at lest it was'nt me..

Captainship · 13-08-2010, 15:18

[QUOTE=Cork24;67437186]professionals.. if you were Conscript into the Army it is now you job. you job is to serve your Country in any shape or form. if it goes to work then you do your bit.
QUOTE]

I dont know what you mean by conscript.
In Norway its 6-9 months compulsory duty from you are 18-44 years.
This is also includes the reserves.After 35 years of age.They are there to protect the country.Most are transfered to the homeguard when finished their duty.
Noone is sent to Afghanistan or Abroad.
The professionals Telemarksbataljonen,Marinejegere MJK,Forsvarets spesialkommando FSK the special forces who are on contract and volunteered are in Afghanistan and abroad.NO Conscripts.

private2bcadet · 13-08-2010, 16:47

our voice in europe has absolutely nothing to do with our military you nimrod!
you really havnt a clue do you? you think the ira are just people with masks? you are the defenition of a walter mitty. i completely disagree with what the ira do and have done... but even i will admit... their professionalism, makes the taliban look like the bloody boyscouts! the brits are hammering the taliban! they admitted they couldnt beat the IRA!

it takes a lot more 'balls' to stay out of a bloody military alliance than to just give in and join!

pretty much everything your saying warrants the question 'what the hell is this guy even talking about'

because you have no idea what your on about! you dont even know that ireland practically is a member of NATO. we're just not subject to article 5 of the treaty!

little idiots like you really grind my gears,... but you know what really annoys me... all your friends, if you have any, probably think you know everything about the military world cos you seam to be very outspoken about it! so your probably tainting their opinions with your muck aswel! little do they know,, you are actually making things up,, and living by philosophies designed to make computer games sound cool!

you have all these opinions,, and every single time i point out how flawed they are, you just switch to some other crap and start pretending you know about it!

if your as un-irish to assume, they royal irish is not a part of the british army, and its the army of northern ireland, then you dont get to have opinions on ireland, or her foreign policy!

quit while your ahead

Captainship · 13-08-2010, 19:14

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Originally Posted by private2bcadet

our voice in europe has absolutely nothing to do with our military you nimrod!
you really havnt a clue do you? you think the ira are just people with masks? you are the defenition of a walter mitty. i completely disagree with what the ira do and have done... but even i will admit... their professionalism, makes the taliban look like the bloody boyscouts! the brits are hammering the taliban! they admitted they couldnt beat the IRA!

it takes a lot more 'balls' to stay out of a bloody military alliance than to just give in and join!

pretty much everything your saying warrants the question 'what the hell is this guy even talking about'

because you have no idea what your on about! you dont even know that ireland practically is a member of NATO. we're just not subject to article 5 of the treaty!

little idiots like you really grind my gears,... but you know what really annoys me... all your friends, if you have any, probably think you know everything about the military world cos you seam to be very outspoken about it! so your probably tainting their opinions with your muck aswel! little do they know,, you are actually making things up,, and living by philosophies designed to make computer games sound cool!

you have all these opinions,, and every single time i point out how flawed they are, you just switch to some other crap and start pretending you know about it!

if your as un-irish to assume, they royal irish is not a part of the british army, and its the army of northern ireland, then you dont get to have opinions on ireland, or her foreign policy!

quit while your ahead

Well said

private2bcadet · 14-08-2010, 04:49

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Originally Posted by Captainship

Well said

haha, thanks!

MACHEAD · 16-08-2010, 16:43

I think that movie with 'Brice' in it was on TV recently, most likely he's just got carried away.........yippie kai aay mother****ers!

private2bcadet · 17-08-2010, 15:37

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Originally Posted by MACHEAD

I think that movie with 'Brice' in it was on TV recently, most likely he's just got carried away.........yippie kai aay mother****ers!

haha

bouse23 · 02-11-2010, 23:13

you always here in daily mail type newspapers if everyone did national service there would be no crime. i was in finland a few years ago a nuetral country with compulsury national service for males and people there used to say that guys came out of the army wild they all drank too much and got into fights all the time and that scrapping national service would reduce crime drunkeness etc

Kinza · 28-11-2010, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Cork24

Any Way you just wait and see.. Ireland being Over Run in a few years time!

or maybe sooner then you think!! North Korea will Nuke South, America will Bomb the **** out of North Korea, China Russia will condemn America and South Korea for its actions and hell we have WW3 on our hands!

Hell its only 16 more Months till Dec. 2012

Just came across this thread today and was surprised to see that the op, who seemed to be shot down throughout this thread for his views, may have actually been on to something here all those months ago going by recent events in asia!

Cork24 · 28-11-2010, 18:47

Seen, that the GDP of Ireland and the Loan Rate were getting off the IMF is going to hit around 1billion a year, Now with the size and Exports this country has, how are we going to pay this back?

1. We will have to sell some of our Army base around the Country to Either US or NATO. Since US Army in Germany Contract is all most up, US were looking at Bosnia for their base. but since Ireland will need money to ease the pressure i think we could sell to the US Army, After all the US always wanted an Army base here.
Our we could Sell Cobh Naval base back to the British Army.. since Churchhill wanted it back during WW2

2. We could join NATO which in turn help our Finances in the Deference force

3. Look we have around 30% of people on the Dole,, around 18% are fit enough to join the Army, Look 1. 18% off the Dole would ease our pockets, if this come in, the 18% will serve in the Army for the 4year bail out plan @ 8euros an hour, @ 30hrs a week 240 plus Taxes. they will be coming out around 200 a week same as their getting on the Dole but at lest they will be paying Taxes and off the medical Card.

out of the 18%. 4% place in prison's, the others will be in Search & Rescue, etc.

we could get people off the dole on min Wage onto jobs Cost Guards, Police Force, Fire, anything with State Jobs under a 4year.

13-08-2010, 15:18	#37
Captainship Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 53 Adverts \| Friends	[QUOTE=Cork24;67437186]professionals.. if you were Conscript into the Army it is now you job. you job is to serve your Country in any shape or form. if it goes to work then you do your bit. QUOTE] I dont know what you mean by conscript. In Norway its 6-9 months compulsory duty from you are 18-44 years. This is also includes the reserves.After 35 years of age.They are there to protect the country.Most are transfered to the homeguard when finished their duty. Noone is sent to Afghanistan or Abroad. The professionals Telemarksbataljonen,Marinejegere MJK,Forsvarets spesialkommando FSK the special forces who are on contract and volunteered are in Afghanistan and abroad.NO Conscripts. Last edited by Captainship; 13-08-2010 at 17:21.

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Cork24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,188 Adverts \| Friends	professionals.. if you were Conscript into the Army it is now you job. you job is to serve your Country in any shape or form. if it goes to work then you do your bit. Ireland are in Afghan.. for a country that had Men in almost Every War their was, we don't act like it. For a Country as Small as Ireland we need a bigger voice in Europe.. We just a ****ing Mouse In a Dogs World when it comes to Europe. We Voted No to the last Treaty.. Hell Europe was going to push on with out us. that's how little we are to them. We need Europe. we need to grow a bigger pair of Balls and Join NATO put more money into our Forces, Show the rest of Europe were Ready to more with you in keeping Euro Zone Safe and Free from anykind of Attack.. We Cant even Stop a couple of guys running around with masks calling them self's the Real IRA.. so how are we meant to stop some Muslim who would love to kill Every one that makes fun of the Muslim World? Holland is just as Small as Ireland and Yet it seems to have more of a voice in Europe why as it all comes down to Power in which Power we dont have and people are saying we dont need a bigger Army Navy or Air. Nato was build to stop Russia now Russia are apart of it. What does it tell us? if were not in it we can not Ask for their help if we ever need it? So.. if we did go to War in any place and a couple of professionals as you call them got killed we never hear the end of it. but yet if some one in a Building Line went to Work and fell off a building or a Mother five died in a Car Crash. We go Ahh at lest it was'nt me..

13-08-2010, 16:47	#38
private2bcadet Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: south man Posts: 122 Adverts \| Friends	our voice in europe has absolutely nothing to do with our military you nimrod! you really havnt a clue do you? you think the ira are just people with masks? you are the defenition of a walter mitty. i completely disagree with what the ira do and have done... but even i will admit... their professionalism, makes the taliban look like the bloody boyscouts! the brits are hammering the taliban! they admitted they couldnt beat the IRA! it takes a lot more 'balls' to stay out of a bloody military alliance than to just give in and join! pretty much everything your saying warrants the question 'what the hell is this guy even talking about' because you have no idea what your on about! you dont even know that ireland practically is a member of NATO. we're just not subject to article 5 of the treaty! little idiots like you really grind my gears,... but you know what really annoys me... all your friends, if you have any, probably think you know everything about the military world cos you seam to be very outspoken about it! so your probably tainting their opinions with your muck aswel! little do they know,, you are actually making things up,, and living by philosophies designed to make computer games sound cool! you have all these opinions,, and every single time i point out how flawed they are, you just switch to some other crap and start pretending you know about it! if your as un-irish to assume, they royal irish is not a part of the british army, and its the army of northern ireland, then you dont get to have opinions on ireland, or her foreign policy! quit while your ahead

16-08-2010, 16:43	#41
MACHEAD Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Co. Down's 'Deep South' Posts: 421 Adverts \| Friends	I think that movie with 'Brice' in it was on TV recently, most likely he's just got carried away.........yippie kai aay mother****ers!

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bouse23 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 Adverts \| Friends	you always here in daily mail type newspapers if everyone did national service there would be no crime. i was in finland a few years ago a nuetral country with compulsury national service for males and people there used to say that guys came out of the army wild they all drank too much and got into fights all the time and that scrapping national service would reduce crime drunkeness etc

28-11-2010, 18:47	#45
Cork24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,188 Adverts \| Friends	Seen, that the GDP of Ireland and the Loan Rate were getting off the IMF is going to hit around 1billion a year, Now with the size and Exports this country has, how are we going to pay this back? 1. We will have to sell some of our Army base around the Country to Either US or NATO. Since US Army in Germany Contract is all most up, US were looking at Bosnia for their base. but since Ireland will need money to ease the pressure i think we could sell to the US Army, After all the US always wanted an Army base here. Our we could Sell Cobh Naval base back to the British Army.. since Churchhill wanted it back during WW2 2. We could join NATO which in turn help our Finances in the Deference force 3. Look we have around 30% of people on the Dole,, around 18% are fit enough to join the Army, Look 1. 18% off the Dole would ease our pockets, if this come in, the 18% will serve in the Army for the 4year bail out plan @ 8euros an hour, @ 30hrs a week 240 plus Taxes. they will be coming out around 200 a week same as their getting on the Dole but at lest they will be paying Taxes and off the medical Card. out of the 18%. 4% place in prison's, the others will be in Search & Rescue, etc. we could get people off the dole on min Wage onto jobs Cost Guards, Police Force, Fire, anything with State Jobs under a 4year.