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02-07-2010, 15:58   #1
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towing capacity

Hello there,
I'm just trying to find out the towing capacity of my jeep. Its an 02 toyota hilux crewcab. I'm currently building a trailer and want to have it built that it can be towed relatively easily. The trailer is going to be around 18 feet long, not including hitch bar. Its basically going to be a 7ft high box built onto a reinforced caravan chassis.
Any help or advice would be great.
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02-07-2010, 16:19   #2
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As far as I know, towing capacity of a 02 Hi-Lux is 2300kg. Should be in the owners handbook. Remember, that is capacity of the jeep, and not the trailer so weight of trailer must be taken into account when loading.
The nose load is 100kg.
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2.5 or 3 litre ?

assuming 3 litre - 2300kg braked , 750kg unbraked
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02-07-2010, 20:03   #4
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Sorry, its a 2.5 litre. Ya I know I must take into account the weight when loaded, There could be around a 1000kg in it when loaded, (3 motorcross bikes, gear, fuel etc) so realistically, in order to be able to tow the trailer across the country comfortably I'll have to keep the trailer very light.

Is nose weight the amount of weight on the hitch from the trailer?
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Is nose weight the amount of weight on the hitch from the trailer?
yes , if you balance out the trailer or get a double axle trailer youll have an easier time, i think the rated towing on the 2.5 is 1900kg
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Sorry, its a 2.5 litre. Ya I know I must take into account the weight when loaded, There could be around a 1000kg in it when loaded, (3 motorcross bikes, gear, fuel etc) so realistically, in order to be able to tow the trailer across the country comfortably I'll have to keep the trailer very light.

Is nose weight the amount of weight on the hitch from the trailer?

depends totally on how well the trailer is balanced , I have in the past towed well in excess of 2000kgs with a primera 2.2 dsl ,, YESSSSSSSSSS I know maybe not legal

just remember towing is one thing stopping is another modern cars/jeeps with abs need to have efficient trailer brakes
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Do you know, that for any trailer with GVW more than 750kg, you need extra category of licence - EB
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Just a point to note and this has been dealt with many many times in the 4x4 forum.

There is a vehicle manufacturers plate on your vehicle with 4 weights on it.

1) is the DGVW of the pickup on its own
2) Is the train weight.*
3)Front axle gross weight
4)Rear axle gross weight


Number 2 is the important one. This is the maximum weight than cannot be legally exceeded by the combined weight of pickup and trailer. Legally if this is over 3500kg you will need to hold an EC1 licence and should also have a tachograph fitted. Believe it or not but that is the truth.

So if you Hilux weighs 1800kg you may subtract that from your train weight along with the weight of your trailer and go from there
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Number 2 is the important one. This is the maximum weight than cannot be legally exceeded by the combined weight of pickup and trailer. Legally if this is over 3500kg you will need to hold an EC1 licence and should also have a tachograph fitted. Believe it or not but that is the truth.
That's not true.
If you hold EB licence, you can drive a car with GVW 3500kg, and a trailer of weight specified as a maximum by car manufacturer.

The whole thing's weight might be even over 6t no problem.
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I have posted this here before but will do it again in case people havent seen it.

This is a VIN plate from a 07 Transit. The transit is under 3.5t so can be driven on a car licence and does not require a tachograph.



This vehicle is part of a major fleet and because it regularly tows a combined weight of more than 3.5t has had a tacho fitted.




Legally it is now allowed a combined weight (van and trailer) of 6t with the right equipment.
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I take it that tractors dont come under this law?
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I wouldn't think so, I would think most large 4 wheel drive tractors would be over 3.5t on their own.
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as far as I was aware with an EB licence you can drive any vehicle up to 3500KG GVW and a trailer up to the train weight of the vehicle, if you were limited to 3500kg train weight on an EB licence everyone driving a D-Max and new l200 with a trailer would be driving illegally ,
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Indeed you may be right, I am not 100% but I'd be interested to know why the tachos were fitted to those Transits so. It doesn't bother me too much, I have a full artic licence but maybe someone might email the RSA and ask for an official answer
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the tachos are probably fitted to the transits for employee monitoring or making sure that any of the lads on site etc.. with only a B licence dont chance it and get the van impounded or crashed. it would seem a bit odd as 90% of the d-max's and l200s have towbars but id be hard pushed to find one with a tachograph
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