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LookingFor · 01-07-2010, 20:51

Just a note to mark this since I guess it's a fairly significant milestone along the way, so to speak.

Just watching the live feed, and the bill's been passed. There wasn't a vote which I thought was slightly unfortunate. It's on to the Seanad now.

There was lots of back-patting at the end of it all in the closing remarks of the politicians, and finally great applause in the public chamber.

So yeah...here we are. It's not everything we all might hope for, but I think it's definitely an important and enabling stepping stone along the way

**rainbow kirby** · 01-07-2010, 20:51

Step in the right direction anyway!

jaffa20 · 01-07-2010, 20:56

Was about to post this up and then saw your thread. Good news and about time! What is Jim Walshs problem though?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0701/gay.html

LookingFor · 01-07-2010, 21:06

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Originally Posted by jaffa20

Was about to post this up and then saw your thread. Good news and about time! What is Jim Walshs problem though?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0701/gay.html

I'm not sure specifically but I know some people have issues about it over the cohabitation provisions...they may be the grounds on which he's opposing it, but not sure.

I'm more wondering why RTE put their religious affairs correspondent on this story... edit - nevermind, apparently he's 'social affairs' too.

Gadgie · 01-07-2010, 21:09

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Originally Posted by jaffa20

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0701/gay.html

I find it rather amusing that the RTE article doesn't mention what type of couples will benefit from this new legislation, but the webpage is named 'gay.html'...

MYOB · 01-07-2010, 21:09

Jim Walsh is opposing it on far more than cohabitation. He witters on about marriage and the 'conscience clause' more than anything.

He also bemoans not being allowed call people "fairies" in public and thinks women should stay in the home. I think you can draw your own conclusions about him!

Friends · 01-07-2010, 22:10

Step in the right direction, lets just hope that the opposing voices in the Seanad dont stop it completely. Its already way overdue, for both gay couples and unmarried heterosexual couples.

**mango salsa** · 01-07-2010, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Gadgie

I find it rather amusing that the RTE article doesn't mention what type of couples will benefit from this new legislation, but the webpage is named 'gay.html'...

well the bill is not specifically just for same sex couples in the area of cohabitation

**mango salsa** · 01-07-2010, 23:01

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Originally Posted by letsmakeithappen

Step in the right direction, lets just hope that the opposing voices in the Seanad dont stop it completely. Its already way overdue, for both gay couples and unmarried heterosexual couples.

Seanad opposition will not matter because there are only about 5 senators opposed; Jim Walsh, Labhras O Murchu, John Hanafin, Ronan Mullen and David Norris also said he'll vote against it for not going far enough

PeterIanStaker · 01-07-2010, 23:48

The Seanad is completely irrelevant. I'm delighted this has passed.

One more nail in the coffin of Catholofascism.

Leif_Erikson · 01-07-2010, 23:53

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Originally Posted by Johnnymcg

David Norris also said he'll vote against it for not going far enough

Beats me! What exactly does he want?

**Pride Fighter** · 01-07-2010, 23:59

This is very good. One step forward, but there is still a lot more to do before full equality for everyone that is LGBT.

**iguana** · 02-07-2010, 00:00

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Originally Posted by Leif_Erikson

Beats me! What exactly does he want?

Civil partnerships that are the legal equal of marriage, clearly.

I think it's extremely worrying that this was the bill put forward and fear that it will take longer for equal legal partnerships to come about than if this bill had been rejected as not going far enough. Why a civil partnership like that in the UK, which while different to marriage is equal in the rights and responsibilities it transfers, couldn't have been introduced is beyond me.

**rainbow kirby** · 02-07-2010, 00:03

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Originally Posted by iguana

Why a civil partnership like that in the UK, which while different to marriage is equal in the rights and responsibilities it transfers, couldn't have been introduced is beyond me.

Sounds like a broken record at this stage, but the Catholic influence is probably to blame for that, and the fact that Fianna Fáil is basically in their pocket.

**iguana** · 02-07-2010, 00:08

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Originally Posted by rainbow kirby

Sounds like a broken record at this stage, but the Catholic influence is probably to blame for that, and the fact that Fianna Fáil is basically in their pocket.

Does this bill transfer next-of-kin rights?

01-07-2010, 20:51	#1
LookingFor Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,394 Adverts \| Friends	Civil Partnership Bill passed by the Dail Just a note to mark this since I guess it's a fairly significant milestone along the way, so to speak. Just watching the live feed, and the bill's been passed. There wasn't a vote which I thought was slightly unfortunate. It's on to the Seanad now. There was lots of back-patting at the end of it all in the closing remarks of the politicians, and finally great applause in the public chamber. So yeah...here we are. It's not everything we all might hope for, but I think it's definitely an important and enabling stepping stone along the way

01-07-2010, 20:51	#2
rainbow kirby Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cracking the skye. Posts: 23,435 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Ladies' Lounge Private, The Ladies' Lounge	Step in the right direction anyway!

01-07-2010, 20:56	#3
jaffa20 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Celbridge Posts: 3,355 Adverts \| Friends	Was about to post this up and then saw your thread. Good news and about time! What is Jim Walshs problem though? http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0701/gay.html

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MYOB Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Maynooth Posts: 17,085 Adverts \| Friends	Jim Walsh is opposing it on far more than cohabitation. He witters on about marriage and the 'conscience clause' more than anything. He also bemoans not being allowed call people "fairies" in public and thinks women should stay in the home. I think you can draw your own conclusions about him!

01-07-2010, 22:10	#7
letsmakeithappen Guest Posts: n/a Adverts \| Friends	Step in the right direction, lets just hope that the opposing voices in the Seanad dont stop it completely. Its already way overdue, for both gay couples and unmarried heterosexual couples.

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PeterIanStaker Closed Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,035 Adverts \| Friends	The Seanad is completely irrelevant. I'm delighted this has passed. One more nail in the coffin of Catholofascism.

01-07-2010, 23:59	#12
Pride Fighter Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,518 Adverts \| Friends Mod: GAA	This is very good. One step forward, but there is still a lot more to do before full equality for everyone that is LGBT.