[wayne040576]

Originally Posted by Inquitus

I am just offering my informed opinion. The Desire already has a 2.2 with Sense from the xda community, and has had 2.2 Vanilla for nearly 2 months. The Desire will have 2.2 official with Sense in the next 6-8 weeks, the Galaxy S won't have it from Samsung much before christmas. The Galaxy S will never see official gingerbread, the Desire might.

The fact the Desire is soo close in dna to the Nexus one means it is likely to see updates from the community for far far longer than the Galaxy S ever will.

The Galaxy S is a lovely phone, and its specwise better than the Desire, but for the reasons outlined above I would never buy one.

If you had outlined these points two weeks ago when I started this thread, I probably would have got the Desire but I didn't so...

[Inquitus]

Originally Posted by wayne040576

If you had outlined these points two weeks ago when I started this thread, I probably would have got the Desire but I didn't so...

Aye but its like arguing why you should buy a Porsche instead of a Maserati We all have lovely phones, and we are talking fine lines of difference.

[Spybreak]

I'm still on the fence and could return my Galaxy for a Desire.

One question, is it possible to get the Desire to be "butter smooth" when scrolling lists and moving between homescreens? It might seem like a stupid thing to want but for me user experience is top priority and I don't want a phone that doesn't have a smooth UI.

[Inquitus]

Originally Posted by Spybreak

I'm still on the fence and could return my Galaxy for a Desire.

One question, is it possible to get the Desire to be "butter smooth" when scrolling lists and moving between homescreens? It might seem like a stupid thing to want but for me user experience is top priority and I don't want a phone that doesn't have a smooth UI.

The 2.2 upgrade is awesome, my phone is now smoother than a knife through butter.

[Void]

My Desire was perfectly smooth with normal 2.1. Now I have rooted 2.2 and there is no difference really, just got some extra 2.2 features (apps to sd etc).

Regarding the GPU thing again... I still say it's a red herring. Nothing uses the power available Desire may be less powerful with others but it's still massively overkill. Also... running Quake benchmarks etc = useless. These are normal PC apps crudely ported to OpenGL ES (replace glBegin with glVertexBuffer), they are not optimised for mobiles at all. Hardly anyone out there knows much about OGL on mobiles. I worked for T-Mobile in UK doing custom hw accelerated skins, also almost ended up with Samsung, but they were too cheap

[Inquitus]

Originally Posted by Void

My Desire was perfectly smooth with normal 2.1. Now I have rooted 2.2 and there is no difference really, just got some extra 2.2 features (apps to sd etc).

Regarding the GPU thing again... I still say it's a red herring. Nothing uses the power available Desire may be less powerful with others but it's still massively overkill. Also... running Quake benchmarks etc = useless. These are normal PC apps crudely ported to OpenGL ES (replace glBegin with glVertexBuffer), they are not optimised for mobiles at all. Hardly anyone out there knows much about OGL on mobiles. I worked for T-Mobile in UK doing custom hw accelerated skins, also almost ended up with Samsung, but they were too cheap

I disagree, noticeable improvement in 2.2 in smoothness scrolling the app list up and down, switching between the home screen and the other 6 sense screens, in 2.1 it wasn't flawlessly smooth all the time, now it is.

[patch]

Originally Posted by Void

My Desire was perfectly smooth with normal 2.1. Now I have rooted 2.2 and there is no difference really, just got some extra 2.2 features (apps to sd etc).

Regarding the GPU thing again... I still say it's a red herring. Nothing uses the power available Desire may be less powerful with others but it's still massively overkill. Also... running Quake benchmarks etc = useless. These are normal PC apps crudely ported to OpenGL ES (replace glBegin with glVertexBuffer), they are not optimised for mobiles at all. Hardly anyone out there knows much about OGL on mobiles. I worked for T-Mobile in UK doing custom hw accelerated skins, also almost ended up with Samsung, but they were too cheap

So you are saying there is no point ever having a gpu more powerful than the one in a desire?
Thats like saying buy an older pc, sure its grand.
I quite like the idea of a psx emulator, quake 3 and anything else that a faster gpu will allow. They wont be perfect but they will be better on the galaxy s, and will be on the next wave of android phones which will also have faster gpu's than the desire. Are you saying the desire wont be bettered soon?
The desire is older tech. Samsung have said froyo is coming very soon, so the galaxy s while very good now, is only going to get better.

[Inquitus]

Originally Posted by patch11

galaxy s while very good now, is only going to get better.

Samsung have actually not said its coming soon, just that it will come.

Currently a rooted desire can avail of any number of very good Froyo ROMs with or without sense, there's not one 2.2 ROM for the Galaxy S out yet, nor is there likely to be before the official release. The Galaxy S will never get Gingerbread, official or otherwise. Its a great phone, but Samsung support their phones incredibly badly and have a huge rep for that, and as a result the Dev community generally steer clear of Samsung, in comparison to say HTC phones.

The Galaxy is a great phone, but poorly supported.

[patch]

Originally Posted by Inquitus

Samsung have actually not said its coming soon, just that it will come.

Currently a rooted desire can avail of any number of very good Froyo ROMs with or without sense, there's not one 2.2 ROM for the Galaxy S out yet, nor is there likely to be before the official release. The Galaxy S will never get Gingerbread, official or otherwise. Its a great phone, but Samsung support their phones incredibly badly and have a huge rep for that, and as a result the Dev community generally steer clear of Samsung, in comparison to say HTC phones.

The Galaxy is a great phone, but poorly supported.

Ummm...the galaxy s is out about a week. Its only starting to get released in the states, across many providers, in many different models. Saying its poorly supported at this stage is simply not true, and kinda lying. you probably mean that samsungs track record of supporting android phones is poor. We'll see how they go, most of what I've read on the topic suggests that they see the galaxy s as a chance to do things right,this time.
Saying it will never get gingerbread seems a tad mystic meg, we'll see six months down the road when it rolls out. By that time you and I will probably have newer phones

[Void]

Originally Posted by patch11

So you are saying there is no point ever having a gpu more powerful than the one in a desire?
Thats like saying buy an older pc, sure its grand.
I quite like the idea of a psx emulator, quake 3 and anything else that a faster gpu will allow. They wont be perfect but they will be better on the galaxy s, and will be on the next wave of android phones which will also have faster gpu's than the desire. Are you saying the desire wont be bettered soon?
The desire is older tech. Samsung have said froyo is coming very soon, so the galaxy s while very good now, is only going to get better.

No I'm not saying that. I'm saying it's a red herring, and thus a TINY advantage. The performance increase isn't that much, and there are DOWNSIDES. Galaxy uses seperate chip for gpu, draws more power when it's used. It really isn't a reason to choose Galaxy over Desire...

[wayne040576]

On the skin thing, I dunno why Samsung tried so hard to make an interface that looks like the iphone. I got bored with it quickly and installed launcher Pro:

[patch]

[QUOTE=wayne040576;66868051]On the skin thing, I dunno why Samsung tried so hard to make an interface that looks like the iphone. I got bored with it quickly and installed launcher Pro....

Hi Wayne, how or where did you find the clock widget for launcherpro?
It seems htc made the author remove it from the store as it allows all android phones look like the sense ui.

[Inquitus]

[QUOTE=patch11;66880048]

Originally Posted by wayne040576

On the skin thing, I dunno why Samsung tried so hard to make an interface that looks like the iphone. I got bored with it quickly and installed launcher Pro....

Hi Wayne, how or where did you find the clock widget for launcherpro?
It seems htc made the author remove it from the store as it allows all android phones look like the sense ui.

http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-de...8&postcount=27

[patch]

Thanks for that!
For some reason the weather isn't showing up on mine, but I'll figure it out.
Edit: had to turn on google location services to get weather up.

[Brian]

The GPU in the Galaxy S won't make a great deal of difference with the PSX emulator since it's mainly done on the CPU.