[maccored]

Originally Posted by MrMojoRisin

What "wacky" things has he been dreaming up that invoke quantum mechanics as a justification for their creation which seem to get under your skin?

to be honest, i took one look at his site and came away convinced he seemed quite wacky. No-one understands anything quantum so it's quite easy to use it to sell things. I cant say if yer man sells stuff, as Im too afriad to look at his site again, but *if* he does, then thats what i mean.

[maccored]

Originally Posted by Wicknight

Unlikely. Again you cannot simply entangle two particles at distance. You must make them together at the same time. Person A would have to put one of the entangled particles in person B's brain, send person B off and then start manipulating their entangled particle.

I cant say you're wrong, but at the same time you seem pretty certain of this. My understanding is that science is still deeply exploring the whole idea of entanglement, so they havent really got any strict rules on just how entanglement can occur.

[Kxiii]

Originally Posted by maccored

So in conclusion, what I was wondering was, if it was possible that at some subatomic level, 'psychics' may be just people who have subatomic particles that like to tangle with other peoples particles. something that would end up being completely normal - though we obviously dont know enough about any of it to find that out.

Thats not how subatomic particles work it, only if two particles are created at the same time that there can be a chance for entanglement. these particles can be in any quantum state until observed. Once you observe the ''spin'' of one of the particles its partners spin will become the same instantaneously regardless of distance between them.

Particles cant just decide to entangle themselves with any other when ever they are needed.

[maccored]

Originally Posted by maccored

I cant say you're wrong, but at the same time you seem pretty certain of this. My understanding is that science is still deeply exploring the whole idea of entanglement, so they havent really got any strict rules on just how entanglement can occur.

I still stand by my reply to wicknight. Im not saying that just because we dont know, means that they can - Im just saying I'm not too sure you can be so sure of how entanglement works, considering physicists claim they just dont have enough info on any of it to understand not just entanglement, but the rest of quantum mechanics.

[Kxiii]

What I described there is what the current thinking on entanglement is about, its all about the wave function of particles separated over space.

The human brain evolved to deal with medium sized objects moving in a medium sized environment. We are just not built to perceive the very small or the very large. For instance we can only see the visible spectrum of light we can't observe microwaves, radio, infrared, uv, xrays or gamma rays without the need of some kind of equipment.Most these particle stream through and around us all the time with out us knowing.

So the chance that a human brain could pick out one entangled particle from all the rest is infinitesimally small, let alone somehow synchronizing with the trillions of atoms that make up the 100 billion or so neurons in brain, that would be needed to read someones thoughts and memories.

Our little monkey brains just aren't built for it.

[maccored]

Fair enough. Still though, kinda kills the debate dont you think. I still fail to see how you can be certain as theres so much yet to learn.

I have to keep saying, I don't think you're wrong either but as I say, in general 'that cant happen ..' type discussions arent very debatable.

[maccored]

This is actually quite a good explaination:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0080938AAqTbQ4

[Kxiii]

Ok i was just trying to answer your question. Interesting article but this is really only talking about a pair of entangled photons not the huge number of electrons traveling through your brain.

Don't forget that improbable is science can still mean trillion to one against and that just goes for entangling with one person. The maths make being able to connect to whomever whenever out of the six or so billion of us virtually impossible.

They're odds i wouldn't put a tenner on

[kylith]

Originally Posted by maccored

Bit like that woman who has two different sets of dna.

I've not heard of her. Link?

[maccored]

it was on a horizon or some kind of documentary - I'll see if I can find an online link. Basically, to qualify for some form of social care, her family had to do some kind of DNA testing to prove parentage etc and they found the mother's dna wasnt the same as the kids. Eventually they found the mother had two different sets of DNA in her body.

[maccored]

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2315693&page=1

thats the story

[kylith]

Oh, I think I did hear about that. Wasn't it a case of her having assimilated a twin whilst in the womb, and that her womb was actually her sisters?

Apparently it's thought that most of us were originally twins, but that the stronger embryo engulfed the weaker. I'll stick up a link later, the work PC won't let me onto some sites.

[maccored]

yeah - she was a twin in the womb and for some reason she ended up with the DNA of both. Its just an example of how something incredibly improbable can still happen none the less.

[Zombrex]

Originally Posted by maccored

I cant say you're wrong, but at the same time you seem pretty certain of this. My understanding is that science is still deeply exploring the whole idea of entanglement, so they havent really got any strict rules on just how entanglement can occur.

Well you can say that about anything in science really. There is always the possibility that something might not have been discovered about anything studied in science. Gravity might have an as yet unknown property that allows for telepathy.

But as far as I understand there is nothing in quantum entanglement that suggests it could be easily used by the human brain, to do telepathy or anything else. The known conditions required to produce entangled particles in a way that you can actually do something with this don't exist in the human brain.

There might be as yet unknown conditions that make it far easier to produce them but that is merely pointless speculation.

[PrimalTherapy]

Originally Posted by maccored

aye, but if there were tons of people running around telling you of the black swans they've been talking to you'd have to reconsider. People claim psychics exist. of course you can call them all stupid but .....

i would tell them get their eyes checked esp for color blindness