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24-05-2010, 19:23   #1
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[Heratige] Art Deco in transportation.

This subject was touched on in a recent thread on the corporate vandalism of a Carlilse Pier railway station however I decided to start fresh on the subject as much the same damage is happening to this fine art not just in Ireland but in other countries.

The Art Deco period of the late 20's to 40's is my favourite when it comes to design, particularly in archicture of terminal buildings, railway stations, station furniture, marine designs, transport promotional posters etc.



Unfortunately there was not too much of it in Ireland partly due to the economic state of the country at the time however there are still some fine examples including the old terminal building at Dublin Airport.

In the UK there are quite a number of Art Deco tube stations on the Picadily and Northern line designed by Charles Holden

In the US new streamlined Greyhound bus terminals were designed in the 30's to promote bus travel.

I see Cunard have decided to use Art Deco as a centrepiece theme on their new QE2 liner, a giant mural taking up two decks designed by Linley

As someone mentioned, "if it has tracks running through it, it is exempt from preservation", this seems quite true and not just in Ireland.

In Poland there is a currently a campaign to save some of Warsaw pre war suburban stations from “modernised” (An all too familiar story}

Someone already mentioned about Derby Bus station which was leveled in 2006 despite widespread protests.

When I was in Seattle in the early 90ies there was much hype about the MV Kalakala, a futuristic car ferry designed in the 30ies that was used up until the mid 60ies, after that it ended up in Alaska as a fish processing plant and then abandoned. It was towed back to Seattle in the late 90ies and due to lack of funding it is currently in a sorry state tied up in Tacoma. In its former glory. Now, sorry state awaiting its faith..

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Give me proper, massive stone work buildings:



or huge steelwork genius engeneering monstosities:



Structures, buildings and vehicles should show their engineering prowess first and beauty second. Stone building should be huge imposing blocky structures, steel bridges should show thier skeleton and so forth
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Don't know if this LMS loco 'Duchess of Hamilton' is art deco - close enough methinks !!!

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Sadly given that railways here were generally on the uppers during the Art Deco period there was little money for new architecture and that's why the interior of Amiens Street/Connolly was such a rare gem that should/could have been incorporated into a new design. Like so much else of Irish railway heritage CIE prefer the wrecking ball to preservation.
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Sadly given that railways here were generally on the uppers during the Art Deco period there was little money for new architecture and that's why the interior of Amiens Street/Connolly was such a rare gem that should/could have been incorporated into a new design. Like so much else of Irish railway heritage CIE prefer the wrecking ball to preservation.
Maybe they might make up for it and incorporate it into the new Metro system.
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Don't know if this LMS loco 'Duchess of Hamilton' is art deco - close enough methinks !!!
I'd say the stripes contribute to that more than anything else.
What she really looks like


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Apparently the Forth Bridge is classed as having art deco elements in its design !!!
How, it predates it by 35 years...
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Archer's garage, Off Pearse Street was an art-deco structure, demolished in 1999, and then rebuilt!
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Archer's garage, Off Pearse Street was an art-deco structure, demolished in 1999, and then rebuilt!
its only a counterfeit of the original. .

I just hope An Bord Pleanála enforce the same strict example on Dun Laoghaire Harbour board over Carlilse pier as they did on this.
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Surely the ultimate award in British Art Deco railway design would have to go to Bulleid's West Country Pacific 4-6-2 locomotives? Known by many as 'spam cans' due to their unusual appearance they came into service from 1945 onwards - the tail end of the Art Deco period. Up to 20 have survived into preservation.

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How, it predates it by 35 years...
Sorry you are correct, I misread an article on art deco bridges - its the Golden Gate Bridge that is supposed to have art deco elements in its design, not the Forth bridge - Post amended !!!

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Sorry you are correct, I misread an article on art deco bridges - its the Golden Gate Bridge that is supposed to have art deco elements in its design, not the Forth bridge - Post amended !!!
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Surely the ultimate award in British Art Deco railway design would have to go to Bulleid's West Country Pacific 4-6-2 locomotives?
or the Battle of Britian class?

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Surely the ultimate award in British Art Deco railway design would have to go to Bulleid's West Country Pacific 4-6-2 locomotives? Known by many as 'spam cans' due to their unusual appearance they came into service from 1945 onwards - the tail end of the Art Deco period. Up to 20 have survived into preservation.
We can not proceed without mentioning 'Mallard', Gresley must be right up there with Bulleid !!!
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Is that an example of a 'single cylinder locomotive' you've just flashed up there?
nope it has 3
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What about this monstrosity?
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