[Beno]

I can't think of any reason why I should root my desire.

I have not run out of space to install apps on, I have no difficultly getting the apps that I want.

Nope cant think of anything usefull.

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by Beno

I can't think of any reason why I should root my desire.

I have not run out of space to install apps on, I have no difficultly getting the apps that I want.

Nope cant think of anything usefull.

MarketEnabler?

Custom roms?

FroYo (When it's released)?

Underclocking the CPU to save battery?

[Beno]

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

MarketEnabler?

You don't have to get your apps through the market.

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

Custom roms?

What can these do that, android cant?

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

FroYo (When it's released)?

This one maybe but its not out yet

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

Underclocking the CPU to save battery?

Could have bought the legend if I wanted a slower phone

Not trying to be the devils advocate, but i don't feel there is a need to root the desire yet. Hero yes. Desire no

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by Beno

You don't have to get your apps through the market.

I know that but as we all know downloading from the Market is far better than downloading APKs and installing/maintaining them yourself.

What can these do that, android cant?

I don't know, they haven't been released yet. If/When cynanogenmod is released for the Desire then we will see all the improvements it brought to the Nexus One.

Could have bought the legend if I wanted a slower phone

That's not the point, underclocking it isn't so we can slow the phone down, it's so we can save battery power when the phone is sleeping or when the phone isn't in use instead of having it run on full power all the time.

[Beno]

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

I know that but as we all know downloading from the Market is far better than downloading APKs and installing/maintaining them yourself.

Fair enough with the maintaining of apps. Thats quite handy. But I don't think the risks, however small they are and the bugs that are introduced on the phone with some custom roms are worth the saving of hassle of installing apps externally every few weeks, or days even

I don't know, they haven't been released yet. If/When cynanogenmod is released for the Desire then we will see all the improvements it brought to the Nexus One.

What improvements did it bring to the nexus one?

That's not the point, underclocking it isn't so we can slow the phone down, it's so we can save battery power when the phone is sleeping or when the phone isn't in use instead of having it run on full power all the time.

This I'm sceptical about, it has parallels to chipping a car engine, Any of these modifications that are done to the phone, why have they not been done by the people who designed the phone. They would have more information available to them than the modder and the is probably a reason why it is not done. Or maybe it is to idealistic to think like that and hackers know more?

That aside my desire is lasting the whole day, from 7am untill 11pm so I am reasonably happy.

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by Beno

What improvements did it bring to the nexus one?

5 column launcher than can auto-rotate. Bluetooth and WiFi tethering. More free memory and 360 degrees auto rotation. Another important thing it brought was a JIT compiler which greatly improves performance.

This I'm sceptical about, it has parallels to chipping a car engine, Any of these modifications that are done to the phone, why have they not been done by the people who designed the phone. They would have more information available to them than the modder and the is probably a reason why it is not done. Or maybe it is to idealistic to think like that and hackers know more?

It's not some crazy untested idea that some developer thought would work. It's used on almost every single laptop/desktop cpu out today. When the CPU is needed it runs at full speed and when it's not it runs at the lowest possible speed so as to conserve power.

[Chinpool]

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

If/When cynanogenmod is released for the Desire then we will see all the improvements it brought to the Nexus One.

I doubt it will. Cyanogen has said a fair few times he hates sense.
Considers it nothing but extra bloat

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Chin

I doubt it will. Cyanogen has said a fair few times he hates sense.
Considers it nothing but extra bloat

No one said anything about him releasing sense in the rom

[djgaillimh]

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

It's not some crazy untested idea that some developer thought would work. It's used on almost every single laptop/desktop cpu out today. When the CPU is needed it runs at full speed and when it's not it runs at the lowest possible speed so as to conserve power.

I think this is the question he's really asking though. If this is such a widespread concept, then why did the developers deliberately choose not to include this feature in the phone? If the only side-effect of enabling it is an improved battery life, why did they overlook it?

[Beno]

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

It's not some crazy untested idea that some developer thought would work. It's used on almost every single laptop/desktop cpu out today. When the CPU is needed it runs at full speed and when it's not it runs at the lowest possible speed so as to conserve power.

My point exactly why was it not used in the desire then?
I'm not suggesting that they are crazy thoughts, I have allot of respect for people that are able to pull of these things.

5 column launcher than can auto-rotate. Bluetooth and WiFi tethering. More free memory and 360 degrees auto rotation. Another important thing it brought was a JIT compiler which greatly improves performance.

That sounds more like a reason to root.

So root will be useful the desire in the future but at the moment, its only any use to a developer who wants to mess around.

[Beno]

Just looked at my phone and I can see that the processor is running at 259 Mhz. Underclocking not needed I suppose then.

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by Beno

Just looked at my phone and I can see that the processor is running at 259 Mhz, So what help would an underclock do here?

What program?

[docentore]

Originally Posted by Beno

Just looked at my phone and I can see that the processor is running at 259 Mhz. Underclocking not needed I suppose then.

even my hero is not running so slow.

[Beno]

System panel, Its a pretty cool app. Its an app manager that can also monitor network, batter and cpu usage.

It can also tell you large amount about your phone.

Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev2 (v71)
Features: swp half thumb fastmult vfp
BogoMIPS: 662.4
Min Cpu:245 Mhz
Max CPU: 998 mHZ

Just some of my stats not sure what it means though, Interesting none the less.

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by Beno

System panel, Its a pretty cool app. Its an app manager that can also monitor network, batter and cpu usage.

It can also tell you large amount about your phone.

Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev2 (v71)
Features: swp half thumb fastmult vfp
BogoMIPS: 662.4
Min Cpu:245 Mhz
Max CPU: 998 mHZ

Just some of my stats not sure what it means though, Interesting none the less.

So where did you get 259MHz from? O_o