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10-04-2010, 11:33   #1
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NCT & Window Tinting failure

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just failed the NCT on a Grand Scenic 04 because of window tinting on the front driver and passanger window and small triangular window mirror. I bought the car second hand and I believe this was a Renault feature at original purchase. Looks like it is a type of film but how does one remove this without scratching the glass and given the tint seems to go below the window rubbers and suggestions on what to do?
Thanks for any advise!
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10-04-2010, 11:41   #2
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i'd say your timt was added by previous user.
Original tinted glass, are Tinted Glass, not a tinted film.

The film will peal straight off, but will leave a messy sticky residue.

search youtube for detailed guides on how to remove it, its best to see the process in action
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me thinks the tinted windows law came into affect on 1st day of april, as to get it of i dont know but im sure when the men get up from the scratcher will let you know.
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Not up to date on this new rule is this an automatic fail or do they test the opacity of the tint surely there has to be a legal limit
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Not up to date on this new rule is this an automatic fail or do they test the opacity of the tint surely there has to be a legal limit
A certain percentage of light must be able to pass through, cant remember the figure.

EDIT: It's 65%

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Thats in the Uk where the cops carry opaque meters is that the case with the NCT do they actually measure the transparency or just fail if you have tinting fitted!
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Thats in the Uk where the cops carry opaque meters is that the case with the NCT do they actually measure the transparency or just fail if you have tinting fitted!
They measure it!
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A friend of mine was only last week not allowed to do his driving test due to having tinting fitted but they did not measure it , just told he had failed as the tester refused to get into the car and this tint is well within the leagal limit as it is very light !
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A friend of mine was only last week not allowed to do his driving test due to having tinting fitted but they did not measure it , just told he had failed as the tester refused to get into the car and this tint is well within the leagal limit as it is very light !
That sounds very harsh alright, never heard of a tester doing something like this. I wouldn't have thought a tester for the driving test would be too bothered about this, as long as it wasn't really dark!
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A friend of mine was only last week not allowed to do his driving test due to having tinting fitted but they did not measure it , just told he had failed as the tester refused to get into the car and this tint is well within the leagal limit as it is very light !
just to let people know, any tint, and i mean any form of tint now fails the NCT if on the drivers or front passenger window.

even the lightist tine available to the tinting companies fails the NCT. the most up to date one is clear to the nakid eye and clear when put on and is only put on to avail of the UV protection as such.
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just to let people know, any tint, and i mean any form of tint now fails the NCT if on the drivers or front passenger window.

even the lightist tine available to the tinting companies fails the NCT. the most up to date one is clear to the nakid eye and clear when put on and is only put on to avail of the UV protection as such.
thats not true. my windows are tinted to 85% VLT so that will pass.

if you go to aftermarket tinters you need to bear in mind whats on the window already

OP, did they put a meter across the glass to check its light transmission %?
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just to let people know, any tint, and i mean any form of tint now fails the NCT if on the drivers or front passenger window.

even the lightist tine available to the tinting companies fails the NCT. the most up to date one is clear to the nakid eye and clear when put on and is only put on to avail of the UV protection as such.
Completely False. It must allow 65% light through. I know of 2 cars that have passed the NCT in recent days with tinted front windows.

Incidently, the Construction, Equipment and Use of Vehicles act 1963 states that you cannot have anythin on your windows that "obscures" your view of the road, so technically you should not have any tint on your front three windows.

Also under the EU regulations brought in by the Car Entry into Service (Amendment) Regulations 2008 it states that your tint must allow 70% light through the front three windows.

Its funny because the NCT has also put a 99dB limit on car exhaust noise and the above act limits it to 74dB.

So the law and the NCT are at odds with each other.

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If it's a film on the glass it will just peal off. As stated above it will leave glue on your window. Petrol or nail varnish remover on a rag will remove this glue.
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heat the window up with a black an decker paint stripper or a good hair dryer then it will peel straight off, Usually it will come off very easily.

Then just use washing up liquid and a blade to clear off the remaining glue.
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thats not true. my windows are tinted to 85% VLT so that will pass.

if you go to aftermarket tinters you need to bear in mind whats on the window already

OP, did they put a meter across the glass to check its light transmission %?
ehh did you not read my post properly? i said that the lightist tint will pass it but it is clear to the eye. can you provide pictures of your car to prove its tinted beyond clear? of course 85% VLT will pass as the NCT rule is 65%, but i bet you its a clear film, and not tinted.

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Completely False. It must allow 65% light through. I know of 2 cars that have passed the NCT in recent days with tinted front windows.

Incidently, the Construction, Equipment and Use of Vehicles act 1963 states that you cannot have anythin on your windows that "obscures" your view of the road, so technically you should not have any tint on your front three windows.

Also under the EU regulations brought in by the Car Entry into Service (Amendment) Regulations 2008 it states that your tint must allow 70% light through the front three windows.

Its funny because the NCT has also put a 99dB limit on car exhaust noise and the above act limits it to 74dB.

So the law and the NCT are at odds with each other.
the 2 cars that passed, i find hard to believe that they are tinted tbh. the tinting companies such as Vision FX and Revolution Ireland even say that their lightist tinting does not pass the new NCT rule, only their clear film passes, which is a UV protection as stated in my original post.

people are so quick to jump in with "ha ha, your wrong" but take the tine to read the posts please

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