[captainspeed]

Ok, unlike pretty much everyone else out there, I DO know how you're supposed to work the indicators(like no indication approaching when taking the 2nd exit unless the 2nd exit is off to the right in which case you do indicate right approaching the roundabout), thing is though, what about roundabouts with a lot of lanes in them, like the Kinsale Road Roundabout in Cork or back in the days of the Red Cow Roundabout in Dublin?

My old fella reckons it's stupid doing the normal indicating rules here because roundabouts like these have more than 2 lanes e.g. if say the exit ahead has 2 lanes and you are in the second lane i.e. there is a lane to the left of you.

My old fella reckons if I'm in the second lane and taking the exit ahead that I should not indicate left because that gives the impression that I want to switch lanes, I reckon that you should indicate left because you are taking the next exit and you always indicate left before the exit you wish to take.

So, which one of us is right, and why?

PS: I don't want a rant about why I'm asking this question, the general incompetance of Irish drivers, your opinions on this etc, I just want someone to tell me what the correct thing to do in this situation is(if people interpret what I'm doing wrongly that's not my problem, they should know how to drive and the ROTR) I tried looking at the ROTR but that only describes your regular roundabouts with 1/2 lanes in them.

TIA, as they say.

[Absurdum]

you're correct

[jaffa20]

I don't think irish drivers understand the concept of a single lane roundabout, so i'd say they certainly wouldn't understand how to use a roundabout with multiple lanes. So, it's definitely best to use indicators in this case

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[mickdw]

Defo indicate..

so there are 2 lanes leaving the roundabout on your chosen exit. You are in the one on the right. This lane will typically be for your exit and also for continuing on around the roundabout. You therefore must indicate to show you plan to exit. Of course the fact that you are exiting the roundabout means you are actually in theory changing lanes anyway so you must indicate. It will also ensure that the stupid driver on your left wont try to continue around the roundabout and run into you.

[stevenmu]

You're correct for two reasons, first you indicate because you want to exit the roundabout, second because you have to cross the other lane to get off.

You shouldn't exit the roundabout and end up in the left lane as part of one manouver, you should either exit the roundabout in the right lane then separately change lanes, or change lanes on the roundabout then exit.

[corktina]

you are totally correct. Another reason you should indicate is so that the guy waiting to come ON to the r'about knows he can with with safety. Indicating incorrectly at r'abouts is a cause of congestion.

[Cookie_Monster]

on s similar vein is anyone familiar with the roundabout over the M50 Leopardstown exit? I use it a fair bit coming down from Sandy ford village and onto the M50 south. When going around the it the lane markings actually run off the roundabout down the slip road so you are not in effect changing lane. To continue around the roundabout you would be indicating left, or be in the right most lane.

I don't indicate on this roundabout (that part anyway) as the lanes specifically guide you off the roundabout.

[Maruney]

Originally Posted by stevenmu

You shouldn't exit the roundabout and end up in the left lane as part of one manouver, you should either exit the roundabout in the right lane then separately change lanes, or change lanes on the roundabout then exit.

People do this annoying manouver all the time -
Roundabout has 2 lanes entering and 2 lanes exiting.
Car going straight through approches and goes around in right lane.
On exiting the car indicates and leaves the roundabout in left lane.

Why is this lane change been made when going straight through, the right lane is not ending?

[inforfun]

Indicate and be prepared to use the brakes and horn for the f*ckwit in the outer lane who is going to take the 3rd exit of the roundabout.

[Beer Baron]

RE: The Kinsale road roundabout. You should indicate when you plan to leave the roundabout, but thats common sense.

The thing about this roundabout is that it's lane are specific. They go to specific place's and if you are in that lane then you should invariably be going where the road markings tell you.

[Redjeep!]

Originally Posted by inforfun

Indicate and be prepared to use the brakes and horn for the f*ckwit in the outer lane who is going to take the 3rd exit of the roundabout.

So are you saying that you should go around in the left hand lane even for an exit past the 12 o'clock position ?

I'm not accusing anything so no flames, just trying to understand. I would always have thought that for any exit past 12 o'clock (with single lane exits) the correct procedure is to enter in the right hand lane, move across into the left hand lane around the exit before yours and then exit.

Most people on the roundabout near Kilcock for instance seem to think the correct way is to enter in the left hand lane and then stay in it all the way around even the third or fouth exit.

[saltcoats]

the best and safest way to exit roundabouts in ireland i have found is to wait untill apx. 3:30am on a tuesday and post lookouts at all entrance/exit lanes using both radio and semaphore singaling. but still make sure your insurance is up to date cause the vast majority of drivers on irish roads dont have a ****ing clue what they are doing

[langdang]

Originally Posted by Berty

RE: The Kinsale road roundabout. You should indicate when you plan to leave the roundabout, but thats common sense.

The thing about this roundabout is that it's lane are specific. They go to specific place's and if you are in that lane then you should invariably be going where the road markings tell you.

I'll have to agree with your dad OP, and disagree with all the people who say you must indicate no matter what on the Kinsale Roundabout. As Berty says, the lanes are very specific, so unless you're changing lanes or the lane is for more than one option I'd recommend devoting your attention to potential kamikazi pilots around you.

Simplify it to this: (Imagine it's the Sarsfield road roundabout)
3 lane signalled roundabout.
Next exit is a dual carriageway.
You are in the middle lane on the rounadbout, stopped at traffic lights. marked with a straightahead arrow. Car either side of you. You are going straightahead, taking the righthand lane of the dual carriageway (until it's practical to merge into the lefthand lane obviously).
Neither of the other cars cares as long as you do this, unless they're about to do something completely illogical and contrary to the ROTR.(In which case your indicating isn't going to prevent them acting the gimp, they were just born like that)
So do you indicate to leave this roundabout or not?
Who are you benefitting by indicating?
People on the roundabout? - no, unless you're going to swerve into their lane, they don't give a monkeys what you do.
People coming onto the roundabout? No -because it's a signalled roundabout. All you'll do is make the guy to your left think you're about to veer into his lane.

That's not to say you never indicate, just that on signalled roundabouts with specific lanes, then you sometimes cause more confusion by indicating...

The Bandon road roundabout is badly designed IMO, and indicating is essential...

[Theta]

Rules of the road image showing points of indication on a two lane roundabout.

And besides that you should normally exit a roundabout in the lane you enter it (unless there are less lanes coming off).

[corktina]

you should always indicate your intention to leave a roundabout by signalling left at the junction before the one you want irrespective of what lane you are in and irrespective of the road markings.

I find it beyond belief that so many Irish drivers are so clueless on things like this. It is laid down and so simple.