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pgodkin · 02-12-2009, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Moneymaker

His range is a bit wider then J7 and QJ!

Lol @ villains pre-flop play too, horrific.

Why its wa my mistake, this guy was folding or shoving he's never callin a raise with that hand, so i let him in! plus i flop the third nuts, and am not a big fav over like a flush draw, With 14 players left and a bubble at 13 people do we ever fold?

DrJFF · 02-12-2009, 16:05

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Originally Posted by pgodkin

Why its wa my mistake, this guy was folding or shoving he's never callin a raise with that hand, so i let him in! plus i flop the third nuts, and am not a big fav over like a flush draw, With 14 players left and a bubble at 13 people do we ever fold?

you crack me up

Moneymaker · 02-12-2009, 16:30

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Originally Posted by pgodkin

Why its wa my mistake, this guy was folding or shoving he's never callin a raise with that hand, so i let him in! plus i flop the third nuts, and am not a big fav over like a flush draw, With 14 players left and a bubble at 13 people do we ever fold?

You would struggle to fold bottom pair in this spot

pgodkin · 02-12-2009, 16:32

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Originally Posted by DrJFF

you crack me up

i try

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moneymaker

You would struggle to fold bottom pair in this spot

i know but im a bad player!!!

Scouser in Dub · 02-12-2009, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Moneymaker

His range is a bit wider then J7 and QJ!

Lol @ villains pre-flop play too, horrific.

he checked his option?

ShipIt · 03-12-2009, 06:51

[quote=pgodkin;63303787]Why its wa my mistake, this guy was folding or shoving he's never callin a raise with that hand, so i let him in! plus i flop the third nuts, and am not a big fav over like a flush draw, With 14 players left and a bubble at 13 people do we ever fold?[/quote]

Haha...jesus fooking christ

zuutroy · 03-12-2009, 11:19

Are PLO hands allowed?

If so $10plo in the 8-game mixed.

CO opens, BTN flats, I flat SB with 7889.

Flop ($1.15) 8TJ two hearts.

I check, CO bets $0.40, BTN calls, I pot to ~$2.65, CO folds, BTN flats. (Is this an OK flop line)

Turn (~$6.85) Kh one of the worst cards in the deck obv. I check? he checks back

River J What my line here? Can I bet the crappy boat, or c/c, or c/f? :O

mickc · 03-12-2009, 11:26

never sure whats the best line here

sorry no HH

effective stacks $170

I opens KhKs to 4$ from UTG+1 (i'm about 19/16 or so, 3b 15% over 100 hands)

CO 3bets to 13 (playing about 20/15 3b 2% over 100 hands only note is "raised to 3 from sb with q10o, called raise from BB to 10 and flopped trips.")

I 4b to $30 (sizing OK?) and he flats.

pot $61.50
flop AdJc5c pot

hero ?

Moneymaker · 03-12-2009, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Scouser in Dub

he checked his option?

Oh I mis-read, thought he was the button, my bad.

Suited · 03-12-2009, 13:43

Quick one from the 6 max ECOOP event last night.

On 3rd level, won a few small pots uncontested, lost a 2 pots where I opened from CO and was 3 bet by player who hadn't played many hands

Hero 20bbish- blinds 50/100
UTG with AJ diamonds

I raised to 250, button only caller who has a 50bb+ stack - he recently joined the table

Everyone else folds

Flop 10s with 2 diamonds

Hero checks- Villain bets 250

Hero?

just wondering if my line was correct from here

Cheers

Moneymaker · 03-12-2009, 14:30

I'd just bet the flop. Why the check?

As played, i'd check-raise with a view to getting the lot in. Massive flop for your hand and you have tons of equity against villains entire range.

Suited · 03-12-2009, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Moneymaker

I'd just bet the flop. Why the check?

As played, i'd check-raise with a view to getting the lot in. Massive flop for your hand and you have tons of equity against villains entire range.

I check-raised all in and he called with A10, A came on turn with river blank.

I wasn't sure if it was the right move. With this particular hand the A on the turn ensured all the money would have gone in anyway, just wanted to see if there is any argument for flat calling the flop and seeing what happens in that situation

TommyGunne · 03-12-2009, 14:39

Philip: Really? I'd fold pre as well FWIW with 67 vs 2 shorties.

Zuutroy: Might be more suited to a full thread. I'm not sure I like the flop raise, even vs the small donk, so I'd prefer flatting. Raise/folding here sucks, and raise/getting it in sucks too. As played I'd bet fold half pot on the river. There are plenty of worse hands he can call with, and he never raises worse. That being said, I'm really not sure about the flop, so hopefully someone better at PLO says something.

Mickc: I'd 4bet a bit bigger with 170bb stacks. I'd bet/fold now and see a turn, but I guess a check/call and fold to anything more is fine too.

Suited: I take it the flop is Txx with two diamonds? I'd just shove now, but I prefer betting myself.

Suited · 03-12-2009, 14:43

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Originally Posted by TommyGunne

Suited: I take it the flop is Txx with two diamonds? I'd just shove now, but I prefer betting myself.

Yes

BobSloane · 03-12-2009, 23:23

Cooler and all but lol at his flop shove. (he had KK)

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($100.08)
CO ($185.39)
Hero (Button) ($128.84)
UTG ($111.16)
BB ($139.45)
MP ($96)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, A

3 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, BB raises $9, Hero raises $23, BB calls $16

Flop: ($52.50) 5

, Q

, 3

(2 players)
BB bets $113.45 (All-In), Hero calls $102.84 (All-In)

Turn: ($258.18) A

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($258.18) 9

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $258.18

03-12-2009, 23:23	#60
BobSloane Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,330 Adverts \| Friends	Cooler and all but lol at his flop shove. (he had KK) No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com SB ($100.08) CO ($185.39) Hero (Button) ($128.84) UTG ($111.16) BB ($139.45) MP ($96) Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A 3 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, BB raises $9, Hero raises $23, BB calls $16 Flop: ($52.50) 5, Q, 3 (2 players) BB bets $113.45 (All-In), Hero calls $102.84 (All-In) Turn: ($258.18) A (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($258.18) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $258.18

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03-12-2009, 06:51	#51
ShipIt Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dublin/London Posts: 185 Adverts \| Friends	[quote=pgodkin;63303787]Why its wa my mistake, this guy was folding or shoving he's never callin a raise with that hand, so i let him in! plus i flop the third nuts, and am not a big fav over like a flush draw, With 14 players left and a bubble at 13 people do we ever fold?[/quote] Haha...jesus fooking christ

03-12-2009, 11:19	#52
zuutroy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Back from Belgium! Posts: 7,737 Adverts \| Friends	Are PLO hands allowed? If so $10plo in the 8-game mixed. CO opens, BTN flats, I flat SB with 7889. Flop ($1.15) 8TJ two hearts. I check, CO bets $0.40, BTN calls, I pot to ~$2.65, CO folds, BTN flats. (Is this an OK flop line) Turn (~$6.85) Kh one of the worst cards in the deck obv. I check? he checks back River J What my line here? Can I bet the crappy boat, or c/c, or c/f? :O

03-12-2009, 11:26	#53
mickc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 332 Adverts \| Friends	never sure whats the best line here sorry no HH effective stacks $170 I opens KhKs to 4$ from UTG+1 (i'm about 19/16 or so, 3b 15% over 100 hands) CO 3bets to 13 (playing about 20/15 3b 2% over 100 hands only note is "raised to 3 from sb with q10o, called raise from BB to 10 and flopped trips.") I 4b to $30 (sizing OK?) and he flats. pot $61.50 flop AdJc5c pot hero ?

03-12-2009, 13:43	#55
Suited Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 68 Adverts \| Friends	Quick one from the 6 max ECOOP event last night. On 3rd level, won a few small pots uncontested, lost a 2 pots where I opened from CO and was 3 bet by player who hadn't played many hands Hero 20bbish- blinds 50/100 UTG with AJ diamonds I raised to 250, button only caller who has a 50bb+ stack - he recently joined the table Everyone else folds Flop 10s with 2 diamonds Hero checks- Villain bets 250 Hero? just wondering if my line was correct from here Cheers

03-12-2009, 14:30	#56
Moneymaker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virmire Posts: 2,103 Adverts \| Friends	I'd just bet the flop. Why the check? As played, i'd check-raise with a view to getting the lot in. Massive flop for your hand and you have tons of equity against villains entire range.

03-12-2009, 14:39	#58
TommyGunne Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,520 Adverts \| Friends	Philip: Really? I'd fold pre as well FWIW with 67 vs 2 shorties. Zuutroy: Might be more suited to a full thread. I'm not sure I like the flop raise, even vs the small donk, so I'd prefer flatting. Raise/folding here sucks, and raise/getting it in sucks too. As played I'd bet fold half pot on the river. There are plenty of worse hands he can call with, and he never raises worse. That being said, I'm really not sure about the flop, so hopefully someone better at PLO says something. Mickc: I'd 4bet a bit bigger with 170bb stacks. I'd bet/fold now and see a turn, but I guess a check/call and fold to anything more is fine too. Suited: I take it the flop is Txx with two diamonds? I'd just shove now, but I prefer betting myself.