Job Title, what should it be

jimbling · 19-11-2009, 10:56

Right, I'm in a bit of a pickle on what to have as my Job Title.

I am currently filling one of those all encompassing roles in a small company. We have seriously downgraded our personnel of late and I am basically now second in command below the CEO.

I have numerous responsibilities, but Development Manager, Product Manager, Project Manager, Program Manager, Business Development, Sales etc all spring to mind.
Development is pretty much at a halt right now, so my main role is in getting and keeping business. The CEO would get introductions etc and I would follow up. I am also in charge of negotiations and planning etc.

Currently my title is IT Manager, but I want to change this. If, when, the company starts to grow again I would not be in that role. I would be hiring someone to fill it. I am much more suited, and inclined, towards the business end.
I have been advised to seek to get officially put down as Senior Management / Executive, or at least Project Management etc.

What do ye think?

EL_Loco · 19-11-2009, 11:01

gun for "VP of Operations" or "Chief Operations Officer" if you are that close in the chain to the CEO.

ghosttown · 19-11-2009, 11:08

depends on the size of the company, and it's prospects for survival. Don't let your ego get in the way. Taking too big a title without renumeration to match might leave you in conflict should their be a liquidation, and potentially held to task when not your fault. Something like business development manager should suffice.

**Dord** · 19-11-2009, 11:10

Operations Manager?

**eoin** · 19-11-2009, 11:53

How about CTO or or IT Director?

padser · 19-11-2009, 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghosttown

Taking too big a title without renumeration to match might leave you in conflict should their be a liquidation, and potentially held to task

What do you mean?

ghosttown · 19-11-2009, 17:34

In some cases in a small company, the owner / director / person responsible for the company, if persued over debts of the company, may use the excuse of blame to deflect their debts, if you take on the director title, you may be deemed responsible for knowing the day to day runnings of the company, and complicit in any wrong-doing. Even if not actually a director with the CRO, this would be known as a 'shadow director'. In my view, he should look for senior manager as a title, if you are not a director, there is no need to make out you are one.

jimbling · 20-11-2009, 10:18

Cheers for the responses so far, very helpful.

19-11-2009, 10:56	#1
jimbling Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cork Posts: 2,966 Adverts \| Friends	Job Title, what should it be Right, I'm in a bit of a pickle on what to have as my Job Title. I am currently filling one of those all encompassing roles in a small company. We have seriously downgraded our personnel of late and I am basically now second in command below the CEO. I have numerous responsibilities, but Development Manager, Product Manager, Project Manager, Program Manager, Business Development, Sales etc all spring to mind. Development is pretty much at a halt right now, so my main role is in getting and keeping business. The CEO would get introductions etc and I would follow up. I am also in charge of negotiations and planning etc. Currently my title is IT Manager, but I want to change this. If, when, the company starts to grow again I would not be in that role. I would be hiring someone to fill it. I am much more suited, and inclined, towards the business end. I have been advised to seek to get officially put down as Senior Management / Executive, or at least Project Management etc. What do ye think? __________________ PM me for great RB/Bonus deals on any of the poker networks.

19-11-2009, 11:08	#3
ghosttown Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: no longer in Dublin Posts: 147 Adverts \| Friends	depends on the size of the company, and it's prospects for survival. Don't let your ego get in the way. Taking too big a title without renumeration to match might leave you in conflict should their be a liquidation, and potentially held to task when not your fault. Something like business development manager should suffice. __________________ All the clubs have been closed down.....

19-11-2009, 11:10	#4
Dord Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 8,014 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Facial Hair & Hats, GAS, Soul & R 'n' B & Funk	Operations Manager? __________________ Free cake!

19-11-2009, 17:34	#7
ghosttown Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: no longer in Dublin Posts: 147 Adverts \| Friends	In some cases in a small company, the owner / director / person responsible for the company, if persued over debts of the company, may use the excuse of blame to deflect their debts, if you take on the director title, you may be deemed responsible for knowing the day to day runnings of the company, and complicit in any wrong-doing. Even if not actually a director with the CRO, this would be known as a 'shadow director'. In my view, he should look for senior manager as a title, if you are not a director, there is no need to make out you are one. __________________ All the clubs have been closed down.....

20-11-2009, 10:18	#8
jimbling Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cork Posts: 2,966 Adverts \| Friends	Cheers for the responses so far, very helpful. __________________ PM me for great RB/Bonus deals on any of the poker networks.

19-11-2009, 11:01	#2
EL_Loco Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: my house Posts: 487 Adverts \| Friends	gun for "VP of Operations" or "Chief Operations Officer" if you are that close in the chain to the CEO.

19-11-2009, 11:53	#5
eoin Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Up on my high horse Posts: 10,428 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Motoring	How about CTO or or IT Director?

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