I'm Walking in the rain

Paul91 · 10-11-2009, 10:32

So there I was last night, big yellow high viz jacket, waterproof/snow boarder trousers, waterproof boots, goretex gloves and being from yorkshire, me flat cap, two dogs with me, waiting to cross the main road where I live (village in Co Cork) and along came a van, straight through a puddle in the road at high speed, soaking the dogs (even more) the spray came about 5 feet into the air, then two seconds later and a car did the exact same thing - didn't bother me too much as i had my dog walking rain gear on, but the poor dogs where wet enough - I know if this happened in the UK they could get points on the licence for driving without due care and attention - is it the same here?

**star-pants** · 10-11-2009, 10:40

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GigaByte · 10-11-2009, 10:44

Points for driving through a puddle! LOL Not surprised you left the uk, you can't get points for driving through a puddle here.

Sounds like you where prepared for the weather, get rain coats for your dogs

mymo · 10-11-2009, 10:44

Welcome to Ireland, This happens to me all the time

Although I'm not as well kitted out as you

Not sure about the points, but I know one day it happened a guarda car was behind the offending vehicle and pulled them over for a chat, as I passed the guy got out and apologized(I'm sure with a prompt from said guard), in the pouring rain in just his shirt no coat. By the time he got back in the car he was soaked.

R.O.R · 10-11-2009, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Paul91

being from yorkshire, me flat cap, two dogs with me,

Whippets by any chance?

Paul91 · 10-11-2009, 10:58

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Originally Posted by R.O.R

Whippets by any chance?

nope German Shepherd and Box/Lab - whippets too fast for me

Paul91 · 10-11-2009, 11:11

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Originally Posted by GigaByte

Points for driving through a puddle! LOL Not surprised you left the uk, you can't get points for driving through a puddle here.

Sounds like you where prepared for the weather, get rain coats for your dogs

no, points for driving without due care and attention,

http://www.cmsolicitors.co.uk/road-t...-due-care.html

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Inconsiderate driving is another charge which relates to careless driving. Inconsiderate driving is road traffic behaviour which can be proven to have inconvenienced other drivers. Tailgating, flashing your headlights or beeping your horn in order to intimidate another driver into speeding up or changing lanes, speeding up through puddles and splashing pedestrians and failure to move out of the overtaking lane are all examples of inconsiderate driving or driving without reasonable consideration for other road-users.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/1...bus_stop.shtml

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Charges of careless or even dangerous driving could be brought for this type of offence, the force said.

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthr...=447325&page=7

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Driving drunk means that you're driving without full control of your car. Driving at speed through a puddle means the same thing. It's very dangerous. She could have aquaplaned very easily, or it was very possible that there would have been a pothole concealed in the puddle. The force of the water could have wrenched the wheel from her grasp, and sent the fast-moving vehicle anywhere.

http://community.babycentre.co.uk/po...massive_puddle

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it is illegal, the offence is driving without due care and attention. you can loose you license

http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/FH/f...6262412946.php

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The court heard that on 6th May this year, the defendant was driving a black Honda Civic car along the Irvinestown road when the car struck a puddle and the defendant lost control of the vehicle.
The car left the road and hit a garden fence and hedge before spinning and ending up on the other side of the road.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ns/DG_10022425

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CodeOffencePenalty pointsCD10Driving without due care and attention3-9CD20Driving without reasonable consideration for other road users3-9CD30Driving without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for other road users3-9

**draffodx** · 10-11-2009, 11:13

I believe it does fall under driving without due care and consideration here so the driver could be done for it. I'm not sure that points would be applied though and of course without evidence it would just be a warning at the most anyway

GStormcrow · 10-11-2009, 11:16

I think the hi-vis jacket just made you a big target

Paul91 · 10-11-2009, 11:23

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Originally Posted by GStormcrow

I think the hi-vis jacket just made you a big target

maybe that or the fact i'm 6' 4" and 21 stone - can't really miss me, don't worry i took note of the van and car - FYI I posted this in the animal forum as i was wondering if any of the folks over there found the same thing but the mod's shifted the post to here - so apologise for disturbing you petorl heads

GigaByte · 10-11-2009, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Paul91

no, points for driving without due care and attention,

http://www.cmsolicitors.co.uk/road-t...-due-care.html

Yes almost any kind of driving could be charged with driving without due care and attention, even if you avoided the puddle you could be charge with driving without due care and attention for crashing into the car coming the other way.

Big puddles often can completely cover a road, you will not get done for driving through it

**Anan1** · 10-11-2009, 11:52

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Originally Posted by GigaByte

Yes almost any kind of driving could be charged with driving without due care and attention, even if you avoided the puddle you could be charge with driving without due care and attention for crashing into the car coming the other way.

Big puddles often can completely cover a road, you will not get done for driving through it

There is always the option to slow down. As has been said before, you never know what's under the surface of the water.

GigaByte · 10-11-2009, 11:59

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There is always the option to slow down.

It's obvious the driver took option 2.

antomorro-sei · 10-11-2009, 12:12

LOL, I soaked some woman yesterday coming back by The Ashleaf Shopping Centre.

Hammertime · 10-11-2009, 13:00

I was in a taxi late at night going past Grand Canal Quay and taximan soaked two girls by flying thru a big puddle.

cop car going the other way seen it, turned around and pulled him and hit him with fine and points.

He kinda stopped laughing after that, I had to listen to the "why don't they catch the real criminals" all the way home

10-11-2009, 10:32	#1
Paul91 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cork Posts: 763 Adverts \| Friends	I'm Walking in the rain So there I was last night, big yellow high viz jacket, waterproof/snow boarder trousers, waterproof boots, goretex gloves and being from yorkshire, me flat cap, two dogs with me, waiting to cross the main road where I live (village in Co Cork) and along came a van, straight through a puddle in the road at high speed, soaking the dogs (even more) the spray came about 5 feet into the air, then two seconds later and a car did the exact same thing - didn't bother me too much as i had my dog walking rain gear on, but the poor dogs where wet enough - I know if this happened in the UK they could get points on the licence for driving without due care and attention - is it the same here? __________________ 2008 20,000 Dogs in Ireland Seized/Surrended/Collected - 10,000 Put to Sleep 49% 2008 Cork (City and County) 1,600 Dogs Seized/Surrended/Collected - 1,000 Put to Sleep 61% 2007 UK 105,000 Dogs Seized/Surrended/Collected - 7,900 Put to Sleep 8% Last edited by Paul91; 10-11-2009 at 10:36.

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draffodx Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Meath Posts: 5,449 Adverts \| Friends Mod: DKIT, Modified Cars	I believe it does fall under driving without due care and consideration here so the driver could be done for it. I'm not sure that points would be applied though and of course without evidence it would just be a warning at the most anyway __________________ All The Way Round Charity Drive - Coming Soon

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10-11-2009, 10:44	#3
GigaByte Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lucan, Co Dublin Posts: 479 Adverts \| Friends	Points for driving through a puddle! LOL Not surprised you left the uk, you can't get points for driving through a puddle here. Sounds like you where prepared for the weather, get rain coats for your dogs

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mymo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 353 Adverts \| Friends	Welcome to Ireland, This happens to me all the time Although I'm not as well kitted out as you Not sure about the points, but I know one day it happened a guarda car was behind the offending vehicle and pulled them over for a chat, as I passed the guy got out and apologized(I'm sure with a prompt from said guard), in the pouring rain in just his shirt no coat. By the time he got back in the car he was soaked.

10-11-2009, 12:12	#14
antomorro-sei Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 479 Adverts \| Friends	LOL, I soaked some woman yesterday coming back by The Ashleaf Shopping Centre.

10-11-2009, 13:00	#15
Hammertime Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,536 Adverts \| Friends	I was in a taxi late at night going past Grand Canal Quay and taximan soaked two girls by flying thru a big puddle. cop car going the other way seen it, turned around and pulled him and hit him with fine and points. He kinda stopped laughing after that, I had to listen to the "why don't they catch the real criminals" all the way home