State urged to pay compensation to trafficking victims - IT

[The_Minister]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...257056585.html

VICTIMS OF human trafficking should be able to obtain compensation from the State in cases where their traffickers cannot be found and made liable, a conference on the subject has been told.

Hilkka Becker, a solicitor with the Immigrant Council of Ireland, called for a quick and streamlined “avenue”, with an independent appeals mechanism, to compensate trafficking victims for the trauma they had suffered.

In cases where the trafficker could not be found, there was an obligation on the State to provide compensation, she told the conference organised by Act to Prevent Trafficking (APT).

The Criminal Injuries Compensation Board offered a “theoretical possibility” for claiming such compensation, but only for out of pocket expenses and not pain and suffering, Ms Bekker said.

It was also possible to sue under employment law but in the case of victims of sexual exploitation, the State was unlikely to recognise the form of the exploitation suffered under the legislation. She said the council was seriously concerned victims of trafficking often did not seem to get the breathing space to allow them to recover, escape the influence of the traffickers and make an “informed decision” on whether to co-operate with gardaí.

The State should ensure permission to remain here was not dependant on whether a victim was prepared to co-operate in a prosecution of traffickers.

Kathleen Fahy, director of Ruhama, an organisation working with women in prostitution, warned against “jumping to conclusions” that women were lying about their experiences to get Irish residency. Ruhama’s experience was that none of the victims it helped was making up stories.

Éimear Burke, a psychologist who has counselled trafficking victims, criticised the “adversarial and essentially non-believing” attitude of immigration officials dealing with trafficked women.

“Unfortunately in this country there is a culture of not believing or acknowledging the stories of those who have been abused or traumatised. It took the recent Ryan report to knock us out of our complacency, and there still is a considerable amount of denial about it.”

According to Ms Burke, the treatment of some victims by the Irish authorities served to prolong their psychological distress.

Being moved around the country repeatedly, and the very long asylum-seeking process, prolonged the women’s sense of insecurity.

Stellan Hermansson, a Swede living in Ireland who campaigned successfully in his home country to have the buying of sex criminalised, said prostitution was the product of a patriarchal and oppressive class-based society.

Poverty was the main reason why women were trafficked for sexual exploitation but the problem lay not with the prostitute or the trafficker but with men buying sex.

Since Sweden banned the purchase of sex 10 years ago, trafficking cases had fallen to less than 400 a year, and Norway and Iceland had passed similar laws.

In Finland, where sex can still be bought, there were 15,000 such cases each year.

Anyone else think that this is kinda nuts?

It isn't the State's fault that they have been trafficed.
If it was, then every crime committed in the State would be the State's fault, and every victim of every crime could sue it.

[IvySlayer]

Stupid idea. Just like the victims of church abuse, why should we foot the bill?

[Kintarō Hattori]

I was going to write a fairly decent post as to why I thought this was lunacy but really at the end of the day I can't be bothered. It's just some more f*ckwits who want someone to blame for their issues. While trafficking is an awful crime trying to blame the state and get it to cough up dosh isn't the way to go about solving the problem.

[superscouse]

So, some gang brings people to Ireland for whatever reason, and they expect the taxpayer to pay them compensation.

WTF

[caseyann]

Opening the door for new fraudsters how very Irish

[Degsy]

What trafficking?
There's no actual evidence that anybody enters ireland other than of thier own free will..these immigrant groups are a bunch of twats.

[Nodin]

Originally Posted by Degsy

What trafficking?
There's no actual evidence that anybody enters ireland other than of thier own free will..these immigrant groups are a bunch of twats.

Ye reckon?

Gardai are investigating a human trafficking operation where young women from eastern Europe are being brought here, imprisoned, raped and forced into prostitution.

The existence of the latest ring came to light when a distraught and badly-beaten young Romanian woman contacted gardai after escaping from an apartment in North Great George's Street in Dublin city centre two weeks ago. She had been imprisonment by the gang in the apartment for several days and was raped and beaten by her captors.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...l-1910440.html

Gardaí investigating the activities of a sex trafficking gang arrested a seventh person this afternoon.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/print/mhidsnaueygb/

BRITAIN'S DIRECTOR of Public Prosecutions has granted immunity from prosecution to two Nigerian women to allow them give evidence in the trial in Wales of an Irishman for sex-trafficking, including the alleged activities of a brothel in Enniscorthy.
Thomas John Carroll (47), with addresses at Castlemartin, Pembrokeshire, west Wales, and Bagenalstown, County Carlow, faces prosecution for trafficking, controlling prostitution and the operation of brothels across Britain, Northern Ireland and the Republic.
His arrest last December in Wales was the result of joint operation by An Garda Síochána, the PSNI and the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca) in Britain.
The operation involved raiding brothels in Enniscorthy, Cavan, Drogheda, Mullingar, Sligo, Carlow, Kilkenny, Newbridge, Waterford, and others in the North and in Britain.
Seven women from Namibia, Nigeria and Brazil were rescued by the PSNI.
Police said the women had been regularly threatened, assaulted and raped.

http://www.enniscorthyguardian.ie/ne...g-1870587.html

[Morlar]

Originally Posted by superscouse

So, some gang brings people to Ireland for whatever reason, and they expect the taxpayer to pay them compensation.

WTF

In addition to giving the alleged victims compensation & residency.

You have to love people like this :

So says Hilkka Becker, a solicitor with the Immigrant Council of Ireland,

This idiot proposal would make it very lucrative for people who would unscrupulously claim to have been trafficked as a backdoor to claiming residency and benefits.

It would also in fact encourage trafficking.

These people are here illegally & should be sent back home, trafficked or not.

If they are not found to be fleeing persecution or war or famine etc then their applications should be normally processed and they should be sent home. If they claim to have been trafficked but refuse to co-operate with a prosecution there is no basis for them staying here either. All that idea would achieve would be to encourage criminality and even wider abuse of our system.

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by Morlar

In addition to giving the alleged victims compensation & residency.

You have to love people like this :



This idiot proposal would make it very lucrative for people who would unscrupulously claim to have been trafficked as a backdoor to claiming residency and benefits.

It would also in fact encourage trafficking.

These people are here illegally & should be sent back home, trafficked or not.

If they are not found to be fleeing persecution or war or famine etc then their applications should be normally processed and they should be sent home. If they claim to have been trafficked but refuse to co-operate with a prosecution there is no basis for them staying here either. All that idea would achieve would be to encourage criminality and even wider abuse of our system.

+1

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by Nodin

Ye reckon?


http://www.independent.ie/national-n...l-1910440.html



http://www.breakingnews.ie/print/mhidsnaueygb/


http://www.enniscorthyguardian.ie/ne...g-1870587.html

Just goes to show..you cant beleive everything you read in the papers.

[genericguy]

Originally Posted by IvySlayer

Stupid idea. Just like the victims of church abuse, why should we foot the bill?

fcuk it lets ban the poxy church.

[mikom]

The Gardai say they want to crack down on human trafficking of Eastern Europeans that are then forced into Prostitution.
At least they are working.

[caseyann]

More like should make their countries fit the bill or the countries they got kidnapped from fit the bill.Maybe then in them countries they might hammer down on it and not turn blind eye.

But like i said Ireland will always do what others say is right and just ass kissers much our wonderful government sink us in hole and sink us even deeper but they never lose out of pocket or suffer

[caseyann]

Originally Posted by mikom

The Gardai say they want to crack down on human trafficking of Eastern Europeans that are then forced into Prostitution.
At least they are working.

It can only be contained here can not be stopped nor can they deter them.It is never ending cycle.It has to be stopped where it starts in them countries.

[humberklog]

Originally Posted by IvySlayer

Stupid idea. Just like the victims of church abuse, why should we foot the bill?

The state was responsible for the protection of these kids too. They are culpable for a dereliction of duty. State should pay too. Church should be paying more than it has etc. etc. etc. But yep state's fault too. State pays.


Victims of trafficking?!! Not a chance.