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Old 16-10-2009, 14:59   #1
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Gardai actively applying points for no NCT??

Its been a good few months since the law change. Just wondering whether this is actually being pursued by the gardai or not?
I'm referring to drivers with no nct only (not those with no nct/tax/insurance together).


Anyone here been done for it - or know someone who has?
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Old 16-10-2009, 15:10   #2
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Recent cases where I presume penalty points could have been imposed, but weren't..

http://www.enniscorthyguardian.ie/ne...t-1907264.html

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Wednesday October 07 2009

A €300 fine was imposed on a 21-year-old Gorey man at Gorey District Court last week, after he appeared before the court on a charge of not having an NCT on his car.

Judge Coughlan was told that the NCT on the car of Robert Ireton of Knockavota, Gorey, had expired by eight months when he was stopped by Gardai at Esmonde Street, Gorey, on April 12 last. He had no previous convictions, and the court was told he was booked in for an NCT test.
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A 20-year-old man was convicted and fined for not having a NCT and having a bald tyre in Claremorris District Court this week. Michael Quigley, Garryedmond, Brickens, Claremorris, was stopped by Garda Brian Guerin at Clare, Claremorris on April 23 2009. Quigley had no NCT displayed on the car and it had not been put through the test. He also had a bald tyre with no tread on it. The court was told that Quigley had since put the car through the NCT and it had failed, but he had an appointment for a retest in October and he changed the tyre after being stopped. For having no NCT he was convicted and fined €160 and for having a bald tyre he was convicted and fined €100, while the non display of a NCT was taken into consideration.
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Old 16-10-2009, 15:12   #3
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I think there still going easy on it due to the massive backlog it created it test bookings
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I be more worried about the number of learner drivers driving unaccompanied (I have had 2 drive out in front of me in the last month or so + was seriously injured as a result of another rear ending me 2years ago) rather than NCT (which is also extremely important by the way) As far as I can see a lot of road traffic offences are not being enforced due to lack of resources/manpower/effort (delete as applicable).
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Old 16-10-2009, 15:48   #5
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In those examples if there was a qualified driver with them they would have done the same, just $hite drivers who shouldn't be let drive as they are not yet ready for the roads.
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I have not heard of any examples but people who know they will not get an NCT will book an NCT, cancel it/not turn up and apply for another and in the eyes of the law that is acceptable.
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And the discussion of Learner Drivers in this thread ends here.
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Its been a good few months since the law change. Just wondering whether this is actually being pursued by the gardai or not?
I'm referring to drivers with no nct only (not those with no nct/tax/insurance together).


Anyone here been done for it - or know someone who has?

Certainly looks that way. There were loads of people done for no NCT listed in the Kildare Times this week. Average fine was in the hundreds.
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Old 16-10-2009, 21:31   #9
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It seems there are more people being fined rather then getting points.
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Old 16-10-2009, 21:59   #10
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If your going to get cheeky with a guard then they will probably give you a conviction for no Nct. Theres loads of people with no nct flying around, no problems at all.
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Old 16-10-2009, 22:35   #11
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It seems there are more people being fined rather then getting points.
Strange that the NSC still don't consider "No (NCT/DOE) test certificate" to be an active penalty point even though the commencement order signed by Noel Aherne in April 2009 said took effect on 1st May.
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Offences highlighted in bold are active penalty point offences.
*Source: Department of Transport
Title of Offence Penalty Points on Court Conviction
No Insurance 5
No (NCT/DOE) test certificate 5
Driving when unfit 3
Careless driving 5
Parking in a dangerous position 5
Breach of duty at accident 5
Driving dangerously defective vehicle 5
Driving Vehicle before remedying dangerous defects 3
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Old 18-10-2009, 12:35   #12
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My NCT expired at the end of June. When I applied for a test in May the earliest date I was given was October, so I can't imagine penalties being applied if you have evidence that you have booked a test.
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The backlog has been cleared. My wife booked her car in to Fonthill and had a choice of times in the following 2 weeks. I brought it in yesterday, was 10 mins early and the car was taken in straight away as there was no queue.
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Old 18-10-2009, 14:06   #14
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I think most Garda are reasonable people, if your car is in good order & you have proof with you that you have a test booked 99% of the time nothing will come of it.
However if you have no NCT & there are other issues like bald tyres, no tax or you have been speeding then I think you have more chance of being done.
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Old 19-10-2009, 13:50   #15
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I got stopped last week, tax and ins is fine, he asked for my licence then asked about the nct which expired in july. Admitted that i had let it slip, he simply said i should get it sorted out asap as there are now penalties for not having it. Booked it online when i got home, for end of nov (i live in mayo).

I reckon he would have done me for not having it if i my tax was out or if i didnt have my licence with me

(obviously not having an insurance disk would kick it off to start with)
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