Good Photographer/Bad Photographer

[Dodgykeeper]

Following on from the point raised in the other thread which went off topic

I think Andy McInroy is a great photographer, here is a link to his website
http://www.andymcinroy.com
I have purchased one of his prints as have friends of mine who live up in Inishowen.

I think it is perfectly acceptable to post the url of his website and to praise him in here, but if there was another photographer who I was not so impressed with would it be right and proper to say so and to post links to his work.

Is putting images on a website effectively putting them up for c&c and inviting critics to comment be the comments be either positive or negative?

[melekalikimaka]

Originally Posted by Dodgykeeper

Is putting images on a website effectively putting them up for c&c and inviting critics to comment be the comments be either positive or negative?

well if your putting them on a website, under the heading of art, and especially if one wishes to recieve an income from said art, most definitely it is free for all reregarding critique and even brash unsubstansiated comment imo

[trishw78]

people are intitled to their opinions, the owners of their websites can delete the comments they don't like. I Do like Andy's work but I wouldn't be blown away by it.

[melekalikimaka]

ohhhhhhhhhh.

now i see what this stemmed from....

[CabanSail]

I think that it is fine to criticise items which are put into the public arena, as long as it is not done with the intention of being malicious.

I just opened up site you posted for Andy McInroy & have only looked at the photograph on the front page & my opinion is not as high as yours. It's a nicely composed Landscape but the Horizon is not level. So each to their own.

[Dodgykeeper]

Originally Posted by trishw78

people are intitled to their opinions, the owners of their websites can delete the comments they don't like. I Do like Andy's work but I wouldn't be blown away by it.

Dont quite understand what you mean by this!

[Paulw]

Originally Posted by trishw78

people are intitled to their opinions, the owners of their websites can delete the comments they don't like.

You mean if you post a comment on their own website, then yeah, they can delete it.

But, I assume, that if you post a comment, say here on boards, then the owner of the website has no right to have the comment deleted, surely??

[melekalikimaka]

Originally Posted by Dodgykeeper

Dont quite understand what you mean by this!

think thats more the whole blog thang

[trishw78]

Originally Posted by Paulw

You mean if you post a comment on their own website, then yeah, they can delete it.

But, I assume, that if you post a comment, say here on boards, then the owner of the website has no right to have the comment deleted, surely??

correct.

correct. unless you've personally insulted the said photographer, without provocation or with provocation

[DaireQuinlan]

Of course people are allowed to say that 'I don't like that' or even 'In my opinion that is bad' or similar constructs. What we're opposed to is anyone saying 'That is bad' without the qualifying 'in my opinion' because, well, everything is pretty subjective, right ? The other faux pas that people make (and the one which STG seems to have made in the other thread which prompted the responses) is to say that 'compared to MY stuff that stuff is very bad'. That just sounds judgmental and superior, and coupled with the above (ie that you're not considering that people might not like your stuff at all), it's bound to attract criticism.

And yes, if someone has a publically available website of their work I wouldn't hesitate to post it up for praise or criticism if the point came up, particularly if its for commercial purposes.

[Dodgykeeper]

OK I understand what TrishW meant now, I meant in this type of forum.

What I meant was for example a Wedding forum may be discussing the merits of a Photographer, or the ealier thread where STG said about a School Photographer and was asked to post a link and then was advised not too, surely if the comments were positive and its ok to post then it should be ok to post in a negative light.

[melekalikimaka]

if the photographer has the confidence to ask for money for his/her work, he/she should have enough confidence to take a critisism

[nilhg]

Originally Posted by Dodgykeeper

I think it is perfectly acceptable to post the url of his website and to praise him in here, but if there was another photographer who I was not so impressed with would it be right and proper to say so and to post links to his work.

Is putting images on a website effectively putting them up for c&c and inviting critics to comment be the comments be either positive or negative?

Whatever about right and proper, I don't think it would be fair to come on here and start a thread criticising somebody's work unless they are in the public eye advertising their services to the public, if it's an amateur and they have a comment facility on their site use it, and have the conversation there.
There is a big difference between being harsh to someone who might be just starting off and has put up a personal site, and some of the more self promoting professionals.

[melekalikimaka]

Originally Posted by nilhg

Whatever about right and proper, I don't think it would be fair to come on here and start a thread criticising somebody's work unless they are in the public eye advertising their services to the public, if it's an amateur and they have a comment facility on their site use it, and have the conversation there.
There is a big difference between being harsh to someone who might be just starting off and has put up a personal site, and some of the more self promoting professionals.

i think we are talking bout people who take money for their work

[nilhg]

Originally Posted by melekalikimaka

i think we are talking bout people who take money for their work

Ah, I hadn't caught up with the other thread,and the OP wasn't clear without that context.


IMHO the schools guy is fair game, though to be honest how you can be very individual with schools photos I don't know.