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Sponge Bob · 14-10-2009, 08:25

Anybody use this product yet and how does it compare to Ripwave ??

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1014/imagine.html

the_syco · 14-10-2009, 09:26

Watty has a good post about it in this thread: http://pie.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055630274

Sponge Bob · 14-10-2009, 09:49

In summary , it should be less worse than 3g at its worst but it is still Midband

jor el · 14-10-2009, 11:20

The press release sounds like a load of balls. I just heard on the radio that this is 15 times faster than current broadband speeds available in Ireland. With UPC giving 20Mbps, does this mean this new product is 300Mbps?

hellboy99 · 14-10-2009, 12:39

I listened to the piece on the radio about it, no mention of speeds or price, surely these are the first two things you talk about

jor el · 14-10-2009, 13:00

Other than 15 times faster, there was no mention of what this will do.

The usual guff about Irish people choosing mobile broadband came up too. People here don't choose mobile midband, there is often no choice.

The award for most annoying website ever has to go to Imagine with their marketing gimp spouting nonsense, with absolutely no technical information available. Just check it out... or not (recommended).

Sponge Bob · 14-10-2009, 13:06

Dreadful website that , very hard to see what is on offer where you live ...and Imagine resell DSL which is their single most widely available product .

By the time you navigate as far as the business end you could well have given up .

To_be_confirmed · 14-10-2009, 13:06

Can someone explain why a Wimax-based service is being treated as midband?? Less rhetoric, more facts please. And all that I know about the service is from what the RTE.ie article said, and that is that it's using WiMax technology.

I read watty's post in another thread (an accurate post from what I can see) but to say that it's a rollout of mobile WiMax is nothing more than a guess on the evidence I have, including what Watty said in that post.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...77&postcount=3

jor el · 14-10-2009, 13:29

Well, Imagine are calling it mobile Wimax, so it fits the description that Watty gave. As such, it should stay here for now. If anyone can find actual information on this, please post it. Imagine's site is devoid of anything remotely informative or technical, which is rarely positive.

bigpaddy2004 · 14-10-2009, 13:31

Its all Media hype if you ask me and just giving Imaine/Irish broadband free advertisement.
I bet Watty is sitting out there on the side just itching to give his 2 cents on the subject!

Sponge Bob · 14-10-2009, 13:42

It is a mobile wimax ripwave replacement and in the limited 3.5ghz spectrum available to Imagine it simply must be midband because them oul laws of physics apply.

Were we to be certain that they had 100mhz of spectrum at 2.6ghz we could be entitled to assume it might be other than Midband .

The Fool · 14-10-2009, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sponge Bob

It is a mobile wimax ripwave replacement and in the limited 3.5ghz spectrum available to Imagine it simply must be midband because them oul laws of physics apply.

Were we to be certain that they had 100mhz of spectrum at 2.6ghz we could be entitled to assume it might be other than Midband .

Breeze operates at 3.5G but this is considered Broadband

Mantel · 14-10-2009, 14:51

Imagine have said they'll be rolling it out with a 8mb speed to start with (could go to 17mb but they're not going that fast) They've said they'll eventually have the capacity to go up to 20mb, 40mb and even 100mb with Wimax. Intel and motorola are backing them.

From a press conference today via http://twitter.com/adrianweckler

Here we go on Wimax launch with Imagine. First spin already - "4G".

"It's not all about speed." Uh oh.

Okay, 8mbs is the speed. 17mbs possible, but 8mbs on offer

"We've obtained enough spectrum to deliver future Wimax speeds of 40, 60, 100mbs."

Dublin, Athlone, Wexford, Sligo first to be covered by Wimax. Live now.

Jim O'Hara, Intel boss (who's here): "this Wimax is vital to Irish smart economy. And only on Intel laptops."

Now Motorola boss presenting. Cliché alert! "Exciting day... power of the internet... broadband is electricity of 21st century..."

daithicarr · 14-10-2009, 15:25

and how much of that amazing 8 mb would you actually get since id imagine its up to 8 mb and not 8 mg guaranteed for each customer.

and what are they comparing with their 15 times faster.
with no technical information and just some prat spouting rubbish over and over , it looks like this is just a big old hype.

Our glorious leader was quoted on the radio saying this would make is the envy of Europe in the broad band field. i wonder what places in Europe's he was referring too.

MagicMarker · 14-10-2009, 15:31

No one ''guarantees'' their broadband speed. It's always ''up tp''.

14-10-2009, 08:25	#1
Sponge Bob Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location Location Posts: 24,839 Adverts \| Friends	Imagine launch Midband Ripwave Replacement - WiMAX Anybody use this product yet and how does it compare to Ripwave ?? http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1014/imagine.html

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14-10-2009, 09:26	#2
the_syco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Leixlip Posts: 23,068 Adverts \| Friends	Watty has a good post about it in this thread: http://pie.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055630274

14-10-2009, 09:49	#3
Sponge Bob Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location Location Posts: 24,839 Adverts \| Friends	In summary , it should be less worse than 3g at its worst but it is still Midband

14-10-2009, 11:20	#4
jor el Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 16,421 Adverts \| Friends	The press release sounds like a load of balls. I just heard on the radio that this is 15 times faster than current broadband speeds available in Ireland. With UPC giving 20Mbps, does this mean this new product is 300Mbps?

14-10-2009, 12:39	#5
hellboy99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dundalk, Co.Louth Posts: 5,273 Adverts \| Friends	I listened to the piece on the radio about it, no mention of speeds or price, surely these are the first two things you talk about

14-10-2009, 13:00	#6
jor el Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 16,421 Adverts \| Friends	Other than 15 times faster, there was no mention of what this will do. The usual guff about Irish people choosing mobile broadband came up too. People here don't choose mobile midband, there is often no choice. The award for most annoying website ever has to go to Imagine with their marketing gimp spouting nonsense, with absolutely no technical information available. Just check it out... or not (recommended).

14-10-2009, 13:06	#7
Sponge Bob Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location Location Posts: 24,839 Adverts \| Friends	Dreadful website that , very hard to see what is on offer where you live ...and Imagine resell DSL which is their single most widely available product . By the time you navigate as far as the business end you could well have given up .

14-10-2009, 13:06	#8
To_be_confirmed Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,463 Adverts \| Friends	Can someone explain why a Wimax-based service is being treated as midband?? Less rhetoric, more facts please. And all that I know about the service is from what the RTE.ie article said, and that is that it's using WiMax technology. I read watty's post in another thread (an accurate post from what I can see) but to say that it's a rollout of mobile WiMax is nothing more than a guess on the evidence I have, including what Watty said in that post. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...77&postcount=3

14-10-2009, 13:29	#9
jor el Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 16,421 Adverts \| Friends	Well, Imagine are calling it mobile Wimax, so it fits the description that Watty gave. As such, it should stay here for now. If anyone can find actual information on this, please post it. Imagine's site is devoid of anything remotely informative or technical, which is rarely positive.

14-10-2009, 13:31	#10
bigpaddy2004 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Laois Posts: 1,067 Adverts \| Friends	Its all Media hype if you ask me and just giving Imaine/Irish broadband free advertisement. I bet Watty is sitting out there on the side just itching to give his 2 cents on the subject!

14-10-2009, 13:42	#11
Sponge Bob Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location Location Posts: 24,839 Adverts \| Friends	It is a mobile wimax ripwave replacement and in the limited 3.5ghz spectrum available to Imagine it simply must be midband because them oul laws of physics apply. Were we to be certain that they had 100mhz of spectrum at 2.6ghz we could be entitled to assume it might be other than Midband .

14-10-2009, 14:51	#13
Mantel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,326 Adverts \| Friends	Imagine have said they'll be rolling it out with a 8mb speed to start with (could go to 17mb but they're not going that fast) They've said they'll eventually have the capacity to go up to 20mb, 40mb and even 100mb with Wimax. Intel and motorola are backing them. From a press conference today via http://twitter.com/adrianweckler Here we go on Wimax launch with Imagine. First spin already - "4G". "It's not all about speed." Uh oh. Okay, 8mbs is the speed. 17mbs possible, but 8mbs on offer "We've obtained enough spectrum to deliver future Wimax speeds of 40, 60, 100mbs." Dublin, Athlone, Wexford, Sligo first to be covered by Wimax. Live now. Jim O'Hara, Intel boss (who's here): "this Wimax is vital to Irish smart economy. And only on Intel laptops." Now Motorola boss presenting. Cliché alert! "Exciting day... power of the internet... broadband is electricity of 21st century..."

14-10-2009, 15:25	#14
daithicarr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 332 Adverts \| Friends	and how much of that amazing 8 mb would you actually get since id imagine its up to 8 mb and not 8 mg guaranteed for each customer. and what are they comparing with their 15 times faster. with no technical information and just some prat spouting rubbish over and over , it looks like this is just a big old hype. Our glorious leader was quoted on the radio saying this would make is the envy of Europe in the broad band field. i wonder what places in Europe's he was referring too.

14-10-2009, 15:31	#15
MagicMarker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pale Blue Dot Posts: 28,382 Adverts \| Friends	No one ''guarantees'' their broadband speed. It's always ''up tp''.