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09-10-2009, 15:49   #1
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Lotto 'All or Nothing' Odds

Considering the Search Function is no longer our friend -

Has anyone calculated the odds for winning a prize in All or Nothing? It'd be interesting to see if there's -any- game in the lotto where the odds are a little more fair than 1/16,000,000
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09-10-2009, 15:56   #2
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1/2,704,156

(24*23*22*21*20*19*18*17*16*15*14*13) / (1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10*11*12)

In a spreadsheet it's easier

=FACT(24)/(FACT(12)*FACT(12))

Formula for any draw like this is:

=FACT(x)/(FACT(y)*FACT(x-y))
where x is the number of balls in the draw and y is the number of balls you can choose.

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09-10-2009, 17:38   #3
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Said in some press release that it is 1 in 1.3m to win it. I think because you can win by 2 methods (all the numbers or none of the numbers) you half the formula by macros that was used above. So the 1/2.7m goes to 1/1.35m.
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True actually. You can win by matching all or by matching none - either way it's 12/24 but it's either 12 so the odds are 2,704,156/2 = 1,352,078/1
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I'm not a mathematician , so don't understand any of the figures above , however , what I do undersatnd is that you win € 25 for matching 10 numbers , and in my opinion , that is bad value for money .
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5,000 for matching eleven numbers is also very bad value.
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It's a racket.
First 3 draws No winners of any of the first 3 prizes!
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12-10-2009, 23:08   #8
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It's a racket.
First 3 draws No winners of any of the first 3 prizes!
How about we open a book on this con job.

No 1/2/3 place winner in the first 20 draws 1/25
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Pure sh@#e , wont last....
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I think the euromillions is the best of them all.
I was in my local shop the other day and was talking to the owner and we were commenting on all the various scratch cards that are out now including 5 and 10 euro cards. It seems a lot of elderly people are addicted to these scratch cards. People who probably can ill afford to keep buying them in the hope of winning a substantial prize. Most I have ever won on a scratch card is 50 euros.
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People who probably can ill afford to keep buying them in the hope of winning a substantial prize
That's why people mostly buy Lottery tickets or Lotto.
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Still nobody has matched all 12 or indeed not matched all 12 .
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Still nobody has matched all 12 or indeed not matched all 12 .
one week on and nothing has changed - well, expect numbers playing may have plummeted !
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lol @ "Value for money"
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I think the lotto have gone overboard with all these games and scratch cards.
What I would like to see is the main lotto draws on Wednesday and Saturday revamped. Increase the prize money for some of the lower category prizes and get rid of these 3 numbers wins a scratch card. I think this scratch card lark is to entice people to buy more of these.
The Lotto Plus 1 and 2 draws also need bumping up. Some of the prizes for matching say 4 numbers are a joke.
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