Irish prisons 'in breach of human rights standards'

[DarkJager]

Originally Posted by article

The Irish Penal Reform Trust has said this week's report from the Inspector of Prisons describes shocking conditions which are both unacceptable and in breach of human rights standards.

It has called on the Justice Minister Dermot Ahern to commit to addressing the urgent issues identified in the document.

The trust believes the report must act as a watershed in the Irish Penal system.

The report details how seven prisoners are accommodated in a four-bed cell with three buckets as sanitary facilities.

Tough **** really. Prison isn't supposed to be comfortable for the scumbags. If I had my way, they'd all be sleeping on the ground in puddles of their own piss. **** em. You do the crime, don't expect lush living when you get caught.

[TheInquisitor]

Three buckets? The scum should only have 1!

[DarkJager]

Originally Posted by TheInquisitor

Three buckets? The scum should only have 1!

With 6 or 7 holes in it!

[BOBBY]

they were talking bout this on joe duffy yesterday,
alot of the new prisoners are people getting locked up for not being able to pay bills, hardly the scum of the earth now,

[Larkin91]

I hate stories like this. Come on, there's people in that prison who did the worst things imaginable to people and human rights enthusiasts believe they don't live in adequate facilities? They should be lucky they have a bucket

It things like this that make the country a disgrace.

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Ya know what?**** em

[Hal1]

Don't take this guys bucket.

[DarkJager]

Originally Posted by Larkin91

I hate stories like this. Come on, there's people in that prison who did the worst things imaginable to people and human rights enthusiasts believe they don't live in adequate facilities? They should be lucky they have a bucket

It things like this that make the country a disgrace.

Its the goody two shoe bleeding hearts in this country that make me sick. They think the conditions in a prison aren't "comfortable" enough, and only recently they were whinging about the new Criminal legislation that it was "too harsh" on scumbags - the same scumbags that are out robbing and murdering without a care for anyone elses "rights".

If we're ever going to take the fight to the scumbag cretins, these "guardians" of human rights would do us all a favor by just shutting the **** up.

[Gummy Panda]

Originally Posted by BOBBY

they were talking bout this on joe duffy yesterday,
alot of the new prisoners are people getting locked up for not being able to pay bills, hardly the scum of the earth now,

I thought thats why you declare yourself bankrupt?

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Originally Posted by BOBBY

they were talking bout this on joe duffy yesterday,
alot of the new prisoners are people getting locked up for not being able to pay bills, hardly the scum of the earth now,

Do you mind if I ask where you got your statement from ? ....did you listen to Joe Duffy show and just mention what you think you heard or did someone who phoned in the show "claim" that people were being locked up for non-payment...and you took it as fact.

This has already been through the courts - people cannot be jailed for not being able to pay ....however they can be jailed if they CAN afford to repay and have made little or no efforts. (off the top of my head I cant think of the names but there was a case in the courts 6-8weeks ago)

[Diabhal Beag]

These scumbags should suffer in prison. Who cares if its a breach of Human Rights, they are the worst thing to be associated with Humanity.

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BS. people who don't pay bills should be in a separate alright prison and all the actual criminals in a shlt hole..

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Originally Posted by DarkJager

Its the goody two shoe bleeding hearts in this country that make me sick. They think the conditions in a prison aren't "comfortable" enough, and only recently they were whinging about the new Criminal legislation that it was "too harsh" on scumbags - the same scumbags that are out robbing and murdering without a care for anyone elses "rights".

If we're ever going to take the fight to the scumbag cretins, these "guardians" of human rights would do us all a favor by just shutting the **** up.

totally agree with this ..... why should someone who doesnt act like a civilised human being (ie. respect for another human) .... be treated like a human, the scum of this world do not deserve to receive to be treated with respect.

(NOTE: I'm referring to career criminals and those with multiple convictions - as its obvious the system fails them and they do not wish to mend their ways)

I've said it before and will say it again - multiple convictions should be punished by non receivership of social welfare - this includes "claims" of suffering from stress, discrimination and depression.... which are just some of the loopholes that our ignorant government cannot for see (even when its pointed out to them).

(I have stronger views on career criminals but dont think I'm awake enough to post properly.)

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BS. people who don't pay bills should be in a separate alright prison and all the actual criminals in a shlt hole..

I feel I need to address this issue again.....

People who dont pay bills CANNOT goto prison.... people who CHOOSE to ignore debts do actually face prosecution which could result in going to prison.

if someone has a debt that they cannot make they should contact the creditor and ask for help (ie. lower payments/longer time... worst thing someone in Debt can do is ignore it)

I'm currently in debt and working my way towards paying it off - in the last 6months I have cleared off one loan and one credit card, I still have another loan and another credit card left...and hopefully ...the next 6-8months will clear them off.

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Originally Posted by Gummy Panda

I thought thats why you declare yourself bankrupt?

this is a common misconception.... declaring yourself bankrupt in this country means that you agree to pay back debts.

in effect making yourself bankrupt means that if/when you work again - you will be working to pay back debts and not making very much money....this is why so many businessmen - create limited companies so their losses are limited and if the company goes tits up then the individual and his/her property are protected.

with an Example: Carroll - we've all seen the business plea for protection from the government - however - earlier this year Carroll transferred ownership of some of his properties in the name of his wife - so he and the company are not liable - and his family do not loose their home - despite (to the best of my knowledge - open to correction with this) but I believe that the family home was used as part collateral for some of the business loans.