Prayer Book and War Medal

nad25 · 10-09-2009, 18:52

Hey all,

I have a small prayer book which was owned by my great grandfather. He was involved in the Rising and was imprisoned with Eamon de Valera in England (I'm not sure which prison).

The book is signed by a few people, including de Valera and it is in quite good nick. (I've done a bit of research and yes, it is a legitimate signature)

Anyone know where I could get it valued?

I also have a War of Independence Medal owned by my other great grandfather. It's doesn't have a Comrac bar on it but is still in the presentation box. I would like to get that valued also.

Any ideas?

DublinWriter · 10-09-2009, 18:58

Adam's auctioneers in Dublin have had a number of auctions in the last five years with rare 1916 memorabilia such as yours. I'd suggest you contact them.

Mousey- · 10-09-2009, 21:43

worth a couple of thousand.
and the prayer book probly more so.
any chance of a pic?

nad25 · 11-09-2009, 15:57

I hope I have done this correctly!

Attached a few pictures for your viewing pleasure!

**Preusse** · 11-09-2009, 16:10

Nice, thanks for posting! The medal is great with the original case.

**Blade** · 11-09-2009, 17:24

Very nice! No harm getting a valuation now but it might be best to wait until the economy picks up before selling it.

Morlar · 11-09-2009, 17:28

I think holding off on the sale for a couple of years if at all possible would be a good idea.

If you had any original period photos of your great grandfather(s) they would also be of interest to collectors and increase the value of these items too.

PS if you can post up a clearer picture of the prayer book it might be possible to make out the other signatures.

nad25 · 11-09-2009, 17:33

That's a good idea! Come to think of it, there may be a photograph of my great grandfather who owned the prayer book around somewhere. I will have to enquire about that.

R.Dub.Fusilier · 11-09-2009, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by nad25

Hey all,

I have a small prayer book which was owned by my great grandfather. He was involved in the Rising and was imprisoned with Eamon de Valera in England (I'm not sure which prison).

The book is signed by a few people, including de Valera and it is in quite good nick. (I've done a bit of research and yes, it is a legitimate signature)

Anyone know where I could get it valued?

I also have a War of Independence Medal owned by my other great grandfather. It's doesn't have a Comrac bar on it but is still in the presentation box. I would like to get that valued also.

Any ideas?

sorry but i don't want to be a pain, or cause you any offence , but i would not part with either items if they were mine . the history and the family would be too much to part with.

nad25 · 11-09-2009, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.Dub.Fusilier

sorry but i don't want to be a pain, or cause you any offence , but i would not part with either items if they were mine . the history and the family would be too much to part with.

I understand exactly what you are saying here. I can honestly say that I probably won't ever part with them. However, it would be nice to know how much they are thought to be worth.

DublinWriter · 11-09-2009, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by nad25

I understand exactly what you are saying here. I can honestly say that I probably won't ever part with them. However, it would be nice to know how much they are thought to be worth.

I really would be getting those valued ASAP for insurance purposes.

nad25 · 14-09-2009, 17:36

Correction ... spoke to my grandmother over the weekend ... my great grandfather was in Kilmainham Jail when the prayer book was signed - not England as I had already thought.

danpatjoe · 14-09-2009, 19:40

Hello,

That is a fantastic grouping!

Just one question.... has the WOI medal ever been repaired?
I have never seen one with the small ring at the top in that position unless it is the 'comrac' version. On the standard version, as yours is, the ring was soldered from front to back, so that the jump ring would not be twisted as it appears in your picture.

Would it be possible to see any closer pictures of this area both front and back?

nad25 · 14-09-2009, 20:38

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Originally Posted by danpatjoe

Would it be possible to see any closer pictures of this area both front and back?

Ask and you shall receive!

I would never have even noticed that but yeah I think you are right.

Just had a look on a website and it does look like there has been a bit of soldering going on. Also the ribbon has been tied to the suspension although the website says that this would not have been the case.

One of a kind or what!?!?

Methinks my great granddaddy didn't look after his things!

10-09-2009, 18:52	#1
nad25 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Adverts \| Friends	Prayer Book and War Medal Hey all, I have a small prayer book which was owned by my great grandfather. He was involved in the Rising and was imprisoned with Eamon de Valera in England (I'm not sure which prison). The book is signed by a few people, including de Valera and it is in quite good nick. (I've done a bit of research and yes, it is a legitimate signature) Anyone know where I could get it valued? I also have a War of Independence Medal owned by my other great grandfather. It's doesn't have a Comrac bar on it but is still in the presentation box. I would like to get that valued also. Any ideas?

10-09-2009, 18:58	#2
DublinWriter Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7,095 Adverts \| Friends	Adam's auctioneers in Dublin have had a number of auctions in the last five years with rare 1916 memorabilia such as yours. I'd suggest you contact them. __________________ The older I get, the better I was.

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Mousey- Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Behind You Posts: 1,311 Adverts \| Friends	worth a couple of thousand. and the prayer book probly more so. any chance of a pic? __________________ Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it. i write mousey on euro notes in the hope ill get them back seriously

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Morlar Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,270 Adverts \| Friends	I think holding off on the sale for a couple of years if at all possible would be a good idea. If you had any original period photos of your great grandfather(s) they would also be of interest to collectors and increase the value of these items too. PS if you can post up a clearer picture of the prayer book it might be possible to make out the other signatures. __________________ Support the WWI Forum Militaria Archive Last edited by Morlar; 11-09-2009 at 17:31.

11-09-2009, 17:33	#8
nad25 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Adverts \| Friends	That's a good idea! Come to think of it, there may be a photograph of my great grandfather who owned the prayer book around somewhere. I will have to enquire about that.

14-09-2009, 17:36	#12
nad25 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Adverts \| Friends	Correction ... spoke to my grandmother over the weekend ... my great grandfather was in Kilmainham Jail when the prayer book was signed - not England as I had already thought.

14-09-2009, 19:40	#13
danpatjoe Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Co. Mayo Posts: 180 Adverts \| Friends	Hello, That is a fantastic grouping! Just one question.... has the WOI medal ever been repaired? I have never seen one with the small ring at the top in that position unless it is the 'comrac' version. On the standard version, as yours is, the ring was soldered from front to back, so that the jump ring would not be twisted as it appears in your picture. Would it be possible to see any closer pictures of this area both front and back?

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