Math Puzzles ala PlayTV

Auld-Yin · 23-08-2009, 14:06

Two puzzles from last night's show.
I, and probably umpteen others would like to know why we can't obtain the supplied solutions, so I'm posting them here in the hope that some fresh minds may provide a different viewpoint. We seem to be getting 'brainwashed' by their approach to numerical puzzles.

0823.numbers1=227.JPG

The supplied solution to this was 227

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0823.numbers2=149.JPG

The supplied answer to this was 149

Thankyou guys.

Addendum:
I should say that, although the caption says 'Add all the numbers in the picture', the presenter often said '...it's worth cracking the mathematical formula', '...it's precise so guessing is no good' etc.

Fremen · 23-08-2009, 18:28

Typing the first problem into google exactly as it appears in the frame gives 225
result here.

Either they made a mistake calculating their own sum, or more likely, it's a trick question. I guess this question came from the same show.

**-JammyDodger-** · 23-08-2009, 18:29

I've added the first problem up, and using the correct rules for order, I've came up with 225 as an answer too.

Auld-Yin · 23-08-2009, 22:16

Usually a few of us try 'reverse engineering' the problem but these two are not so easy. Also we will need more of the same to check any system we devise. That could be problematic because it seems they monitor the forum.

Fremen · 24-08-2009, 11:50

A couple of ideas that *didn't* work:

He says "add" all numbers in the picture. Taking this literally and adding them all up doesn't seem to work.

It occured to me that they might be using brackets implicitly line-by-line, so that you compute each line then compute the total. That doesn't work either.

Bah.

Auld-Yin · 24-08-2009, 12:41

Here's an idea one of the lads conjured up and my comment.

Fremen · 24-08-2009, 12:54

It can't be coincidence that the operations are in the same order in both puzzles...

+,+,+,-,-,-,+,X,-,X,+,- etc...

Edit: That presenter's a smug prick. What I wouldn't give to kick him square in the nuts.

rjt · 24-08-2009, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fremen

A couple of ideas that *didn't* work:

He says "add" all numbers in the picture. Taking this literally and adding them all up doesn't seem to work.

Looking at it this way, but taking into account negative numbers too (so the first term is 3, the last is -11) works in the first picture. My guess is they have a dozen or so different answers, each from a different interpretation of the question, and use different interpretations for different questions.

Auld-Yin · 25-08-2009, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fremen

I guess this question came from the same show.

Re the matchstick problem you mention above: I knew I had an image somewhere, albeit poor quality. It was actually part of a forgotten video clip but I include it here for completeness of that thread.

match.jpg

RoundTower · 25-08-2009, 18:14

I think it's just a scam, they pick the number of calls they want to take for the question, take that amount of calls, and then tell someone they got it right. It's the same with any of their other problems I've seen, there are 100 "valid" answers.

Michael Collins · 25-08-2009, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoundTower

I think it's just a scam, they pick the number of calls they want to take for the question, take that amount of calls, and then tell someone they got it right. It's the same with any of their other problems I've seen, there are 100 "valid" answers.

Yep. It has to be the worst example of TV ever (and I include Big Brother in that).

oneweb · 06-09-2009, 17:13

Figured I'd continue this thread rather than start a new, don't shoot me!

Last night's playTV 'warm-up' which took over 2 hrs...

24+18x5-
(12-2)x7-
7x6+3x8-
(9x2)+5=?
Count!

=1838

Can any maths heads figure out how they reached that solution?

**LeixlipRed** · 06-09-2009, 17:44

It's a complete scam. They guy who presents it I would murder if I came across him in the street.

Auld-Yin · 06-09-2009, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneweb

Figured I'd continue this thread rather than start a new, don't shoot me!

Last night's playTV 'warm-up' which took over 2 hrs...

24+18x5-
(12-2)x7-
7x6+3x8-
(9x2)+5=?
Count!

=1838

Can any maths heads figure out how they reached that solution?

It lasted the entire program (3hrs) and; surprise! nobody got it.
Roman numerals get used in these things so here's the pic.: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attac...5&d=1252192940

john west · 06-09-2009, 23:45

the above people are right theres abou 10 different right answers depending on how u interprit the question! they should be givin jail those ****s who own that program! catchin out us innocent drunken broke irish ahhaha

23-08-2009, 14:06	#1
Auld-Yin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,224 Adverts \| Friends	Math Puzzles ala PlayTV Two puzzles from last night's show. I, and probably umpteen others would like to know why we can't obtain the supplied solutions, so I'm posting them here in the hope that some fresh minds may provide a different viewpoint. We seem to be getting 'brainwashed' by their approach to numerical puzzles. 0823.numbers1=227.JPG The supplied solution to this was 227 ======================== 0823.numbers2=149.JPG The supplied answer to this was 149 Thankyou guys. Addendum: I should say that, although the caption says 'Add all the numbers in the picture', the presenter often said '...it's worth cracking the mathematical formula', '...it's precise so guessing is no good' etc. __________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Scotland is not part of England How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered? Last edited by Auld-Yin; 23-08-2009 at 17:14. Reason: Addendum

23-08-2009, 18:29	#3
-JammyDodger- Moderator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Galway/Dublin Posts: 2,676 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Anthropology, Sociology & Culture, Conspiracy Theories, Expand Your Horizons	I've added the first problem up, and using the correct rules for order, I've came up with 225 as an answer too. __________________ Previous: Walden, by Henry David Thoreau Currenly: Hamlet's Mill, by Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend Next: Travels in the Interior of Africa, by Mungo Park

23-08-2009, 22:16	#4
Auld-Yin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,224 Adverts \| Friends	Usually a few of us try 'reverse engineering' the problem but these two are not so easy. Also we will need more of the same to check any system we devise. That could be problematic because it seems they monitor the forum. __________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Scotland is not part of England How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered?

24-08-2009, 12:41	#6
Auld-Yin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,224 Adverts \| Friends	Here's an idea one of the lads conjured up and my comment. __________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Scotland is not part of England How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered?

24-08-2009, 12:54	#7
Fremen Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: arrakis Posts: 1,147 Adverts \| Friends	It can't be coincidence that the operations are in the same order in both puzzles... +,+,+,-,-,-,+,X,-,X,+,- etc... Edit: That presenter's a smug prick. What I wouldn't give to kick him square in the nuts. Last edited by Fremen; 24-08-2009 at 12:57.

23-08-2009, 18:28	#2
Fremen Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: arrakis Posts: 1,147 Adverts \| Friends	Typing the first problem into google exactly as it appears in the frame gives 225 result here. Either they made a mistake calculating their own sum, or more likely, it's a trick question. I guess this question came from the same show.

24-08-2009, 11:50	#5
Fremen Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: arrakis Posts: 1,147 Adverts \| Friends	A couple of ideas that didn't work: He says "add" all numbers in the picture. Taking this literally and adding them all up doesn't seem to work. It occured to me that they might be using brackets implicitly line-by-line, so that you compute each line then compute the total. That doesn't work either. Bah.

25-08-2009, 18:14	#10
RoundTower Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: turning AA into a bluff, preflop Posts: 5,031 Adverts \| Friends	I think it's just a scam, they pick the number of calls they want to take for the question, take that amount of calls, and then tell someone they got it right. It's the same with any of their other problems I've seen, there are 100 "valid" answers.

06-09-2009, 17:13	#12
oneweb Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dublin (Ireland) Posts: 2,333 Adverts \| Friends	Figured I'd continue this thread rather than start a new, don't shoot me! Last night's playTV 'warm-up' which took over 2 hrs... 24+18x5- (12-2)x7- 7x6+3x8- (9x2)+5=? Count! =1838 Can any maths heads figure out how they reached that solution? __________________ "Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century." Dame Edna Everage

06-09-2009, 17:44	#13
LeixlipRed Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,260 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Mathematics	It's a complete scam. They guy who presents it I would murder if I came across him in the street.

06-09-2009, 23:45	#15
john west Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 36 Adverts \| Friends	scam! its disgrace how they are allowed have these shows the above people are right theres abou 10 different right answers depending on how u interprit the question! they should be givin jail those ****s who own that program! catchin out us innocent drunken broke irish ahhaha

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