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I believe we can.
Doesn't neurology suggest that the ways our brain are wired nowadays was useful for the 'flight or fight' response needed thousands of years ago but today that FOF is more often than not a hindrance? I'm sure there are plenty of other examples like this..
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Sorry for the flippant tongue-in-cheek reply. I was just kidding. No offence intended.
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Just remember "more evolved" is a dodgy term. Sharks are far more highly evolved for their habitat than us.
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there isn't as much selective pressure for us to evolve anymore
people with bad eyes or teeth aren't as likely to starve to death as in the past then again aren't scumbags more likely to have kids than people who spend their life at work |
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I remember reading of a theory that we are becoming a new sp., Homo evolutis. Basically, it said that with all the new tech we have out there, DNA manipulation and therapy and what not, we are taking control over our own evolution. So as time goes on, we are finding more and more methods to change ourselves.
Now how true this, I don't know, but it is interesting none the less. I'll see if I can find where I read it... EDIT: Turns out it was a TED video by Juan Enriquez which can be found at http://www.ted.com/talks/juan_enriqu...w_science.html
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Evolution only happens when the result of a random mutation helps our genes to propagate. In western countries small genetic changes aren't likely to have an effect. But think longer term, say in a globally warmed environment all sorts of small advantages might be pivotal.
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I think that natural evolution has come to a stop now that we live in a civilisation.
There's simply not enough pressure for natural selection to do its thing. And sure, aren't we grand the way we are? ![]()
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It's entirely plausible there are very complex genetic influences on very complex behaviours. For a very simplisitc illustration we can imagine that over the next 1000 years there may be a huge shortage of energy and thus a shortage of food and therefore world wide there will begin to be a lot more competition for survival between individuals. Thus, we might expect those that are best suited to this environment (etiher particularly thrifty, good at negotiating, foraging for example) to out perform those that are less fit and reproduce more. Thus natural selection is taking place and over time evolution (we might evolve from fat, lazy, wasteful people to slimmer, craftier people).
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well a reason for this may be due to the fact that they have been evolving and adapting in their habitat for millions of years longer than we have been evolving in ours. And to the original poster, absolutely, inevitably and unequivocally YES, we are all evolving and changing and we will continue to evolve. We all evolved from a common unicellular ancestor. now we are complex multi systemic organisms. However, evolution takes place over a time period incomprehensible to us. the length of our lives are but a bilink of an eye in evolutionary terms. Also, if conditions remain constant and nothing in our environment changes then evolution and natural selection probably wont happen becasue there is no need for it. However if conditions start to change slowly, our bodies will do what it does best and adapt to fit into those conditions. But this process must happen slowly becasue evolution is a slow process. So for example, if we say the earth heats up slowly over the next 1 million years to a point that our summers often reach 60 degrees celcius, i believe that we will be ableto adapt to that and survive such temperatures. However, if all of a sudden the earth heated up 20 degrees over 10 years, or more, this is too short for natural selction and evolution todo anything about it and we wouldnt survive. That example theres assumes all the water on the planet still exists...although who's to say we couldnt evolve to live without water as well. If we evolved from creatures that couldnt live outside of water to creatures that cant live in water (as we did), who is to say what is and isnt possible. |
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There has been a load of things that would put pressure on us. The best example is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5-%C...#CCR5-.CE.9432 A gene that may have been naturally selected during the black plaque that gives some very specific benefits.
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If the political will is there, we may be able to get on top of HIV over the next 50 years. I don't think that will be enough time for selective pressure to work. Looking at people we keep ticking over in medicine, I'm not convinced we have enough selective pressure to force significant evolution.
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