Wedding Day Ghost

DANNY22XX · 24-07-2009, 15:12

Taken from about.com

This is a photo of my aunt's wedding day. The year was 1942, and the photo was taken with a box camera. On some of my feedback I'm told it's not really there! Well, I know it is. This picture has been passed down. Please give me some feedback. I would like too see what everone thinks. It was taken in Jasper, Alabama. -- Liz

It's an interesting photo. We have three possibilities:

1. It's an extraordinary case of pareidolia -- an illusion.
2. It's a hoax -- a very clever and well-executed one -- created with image editing software.
3. It's a genuine ghost.

I'm not ready to say it's a genuine ghost. And I think it's too detailed to be pareidolia. So I suspect -- and Liz, forgive me if I'm wrong -- that this is a manipulated photo. And my main reason for saying that is that the "ghost" is just too scary looking, like something out of a horror movie. It's just too theatrical. Your opinion? -- S.W.

Liz responds:

I thank you for your feedback on the wedding day photo, but I do not agree. These pictures were taken before I was born -- that's a long time ago. And when I saw the photos they have never changed. There is a lot about this picture no one can explain, and I think it's something paranormal. -- Liz

any thought guys

http://paranormal.about.com/od/ghost...-Day-Ghost.htm

Slow Motion · 24-07-2009, 15:22

It's a cool picture, but it looks just too good to be true, I am in no way an expert but it looks like it is super imposed on to the original.

*seamus* · 24-07-2009, 15:27

Very difficult to tell without a high-res scan of the original photo.

From that image, the second and third blow-ups contain detail which can't be discerned from the first.

From looking at the 3rd photo, it just looks like a case of pareidolia from the way the trees branches are arranged.

**Grimes** · 24-07-2009, 15:31

Dan

Could you get a high res scan of the photo and attatch it or PM it. Id love to have a closer look.Would also like to see the original to see if its been retouched. It looks like a retouch to me

Cheers
G

edit: sorry Dan I didnt know it was taken from an article. The gallery is full of "fakes"

**Oryx** · 24-07-2009, 16:13

The image is very clear to me. One option not mentioned is that there was actually someone there messing about when the shot was taken. The lady is dressed for the era.

So I offer option 4, Its a genuine person.

Other than that, fakes were widespread at the time, because of the newness of photo trickery, I suppose people were more easily fooled. Even the spiritualist college has old b/w photos on display that to me are blatant double exposure fakes.

DANNY22XX · 24-07-2009, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimes

Dan

Could you get a high res scan of the photo and attatch it or PM it. Id love to have a closer look.Would also like to see the original to see if its been retouched. It looks like a retouch to me

Cheers
G

edit: sorry Dan I didnt know it was taken from an article. The gallery is full of "fakes"

i sent an email to Steve wagner to see if he would send the original

**Oryx** · 24-07-2009, 16:49

Much cleaner image here. Seems manipulated. Im suspecting a hoax planted all over the place by 'Liz'. But then I think like that.

iamhunted · 24-07-2009, 20:34

unless she had the negative, and it backed up the picture - otherwise you;d have to go for a manipulated image as a) its possible to do and b) you only have the word of someone you dont know to say it isnt

*seamus* · 24-07-2009, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oryx

Much cleaner image here. Seems manipulated. Im suspecting a hoax planted all over the place by 'Liz'. But then I think like that.

Well there would be people with ghost "agendas". They're so convinced that ghosts exist that they see nothing wrong with falsfying evidence in order to convince everyone else. After all, if something is true, then surely it's OK to make up evidence to prove it?

iamhunted · 24-07-2009, 21:12

thats one way of looking at it and Im sure many people do. same time though, money can be faked, but that doesnt mean money doesnt exist.

kshiel · 25-07-2009, 12:29

anyone ever notice in most of these so called ghost photos where the image is of a clearer image of a person the ghost always looks stressed or screaming or pulling some weird face, screams fake...

**faceman** · 25-07-2009, 14:12

The image of the spirit in the tree is sharper than the tree itself...

jonbravo · 25-07-2009, 14:27

really cool haha

..... i'd be ragin, if it was fake.

bigeasyeah · 27-07-2009, 13:00

Id say its real but not a ghost just an coincidental alignmemt of objects that give the impression of a human figure

Slow Motion · 27-07-2009, 13:10

On further thought it looks like some drunken student photobombing someones wedding pic

24-07-2009, 15:12	#1
DANNY22XX Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Leinster Paranormal Posts: 585 Adverts \| Friends	Wedding Day Ghost Taken from about.com This is a photo of my aunt's wedding day. The year was 1942, and the photo was taken with a box camera. On some of my feedback I'm told it's not really there! Well, I know it is. This picture has been passed down. Please give me some feedback. I would like too see what everone thinks. It was taken in Jasper, Alabama. -- Liz It's an interesting photo. We have three possibilities: 1. It's an extraordinary case of pareidolia -- an illusion. 2. It's a hoax -- a very clever and well-executed one -- created with image editing software. 3. It's a genuine ghost. I'm not ready to say it's a genuine ghost. And I think it's too detailed to be pareidolia. So I suspect -- and Liz, forgive me if I'm wrong -- that this is a manipulated photo. And my main reason for saying that is that the "ghost" is just too scary looking, like something out of a horror movie. It's just too theatrical. Your opinion? -- S.W. Liz responds: I thank you for your feedback on the wedding day photo, but I do not agree. These pictures were taken before I was born -- that's a long time ago. And when I saw the photos they have never changed. There is a lot about this picture no one can explain, and I think it's something paranormal. -- Liz any thought guys http://paranormal.about.com/od/ghost...-Day-Ghost.htm __________________ you know your a paranormal investigator when you get angry when someone calls you a ghostbuster Danny co founder of www.leinsterparanormal.com

24-07-2009, 15:22	#2
Slow Motion Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: By the power of GreySkull Posts: 7,926 Adverts \| Friends	It's a cool picture, but it looks just too good to be true, I am in no way an expert but it looks like it is super imposed on to the original. __________________ sig2big

24-07-2009, 15:31	#4
Grimes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 6,561 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Archaeology, Military, Mythology	Dan Could you get a high res scan of the photo and attatch it or PM it. Id love to have a closer look.Would also like to see the original to see if its been retouched. It looks like a retouch to me Cheers G edit: sorry Dan I didnt know it was taken from an article. The gallery is full of "fakes" __________________ If I had breasts, I would have over 5000 boards profile visits. Last edited by Grimes; 24-07-2009 at 15:35.

24-07-2009, 16:13	#5
Oryx Nettle Warrior Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Turning in your hands. Posts: 5,855 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Paranormal, Spirituality	The image is very clear to me. One option not mentioned is that there was actually someone there messing about when the shot was taken. The lady is dressed for the era. So I offer option 4, Its a genuine person. Other than that, fakes were widespread at the time, because of the newness of photo trickery, I suppose people were more easily fooled. Even the spiritualist college has old b/w photos on display that to me are blatant double exposure fakes. __________________ Every day is a new life. Sieze it. Live it.

24-07-2009, 16:49	#7
Oryx Nettle Warrior Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Turning in your hands. Posts: 5,855 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Paranormal, Spirituality	Much cleaner image here. Seems manipulated. Im suspecting a hoax planted all over the place by 'Liz'. But then I think like that. __________________ Every day is a new life. Sieze it. Live it.

24-07-2009, 15:27	#3
seamus Subscriber Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: :getName() Posts: 29,680 Adverts \| Friends	Very difficult to tell without a high-res scan of the original photo. From that image, the second and third blow-ups contain detail which can't be discerned from the first. From looking at the 3rd photo, it just looks like a case of pareidolia from the way the trees branches are arranged.

24-07-2009, 20:34	#8
iamhunted Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LeinsterParanormal Posts: 1,556 Adverts \| Friends	unless she had the negative, and it backed up the picture - otherwise you;d have to go for a manipulated image as a) its possible to do and b) you only have the word of someone you dont know to say it isnt __________________ See first, think later, then test. But always see first. Otherwise you will only see what you were expecting. Most scientists forget that. - Douglas Adams

24-07-2009, 21:12	#10
iamhunted Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LeinsterParanormal Posts: 1,556 Adverts \| Friends	thats one way of looking at it and Im sure many people do. same time though, money can be faked, but that doesnt mean money doesnt exist. __________________ See first, think later, then test. But always see first. Otherwise you will only see what you were expecting. Most scientists forget that. - Douglas Adams

25-07-2009, 12:29	#11
kshiel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In between Here and There Posts: 986 Adverts \| Friends	anyone ever notice in most of these so called ghost photos where the image is of a clearer image of a person the ghost always looks stressed or screaming or pulling some weird face, screams fake... __________________ Fancy words are listened to yet the truth is written in simple words for all to understand...

25-07-2009, 14:12	#12
faceman No Drama Theatre Representative Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the Dreams of Fairies and Moo Cows Posts: 10,096 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Boards Drama Group, Theatre & Performing Arts, Films	The image of the spirit in the tree is sharper than the tree itself... __________________ My Blog: www.lowerthetone.com Updated: February 1st - Invasion Of The Not So Quite Dead!

25-07-2009, 14:27	#13
jonbravo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ireland Posts: 384 Adverts \| Friends	really cool haha ..... i'd be ragin, if it was fake. __________________ The understanding between a non-technical writer and his reader is that he shall talk more or less like a human being and not like an act of parliament....he can never succeed without the co-operation of the reader.

27-07-2009, 13:00	#14
bigeasyeah Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The West Posts: 1,126 Adverts \| Friends	Id say its real but not a ghost just an coincidental alignmemt of objects that give the impression of a human figure __________________ Do push-ups

27-07-2009, 13:10	#15
Slow Motion Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: By the power of GreySkull Posts: 7,926 Adverts \| Friends	On further thought it looks like some drunken student photobombing someones wedding pic __________________ sig2big

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