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tazdustdevil · 12-07-2009, 18:08

Hi everyone...

My car died on the M50. It had served me well but I need to get meself a new one soon. I test drove a few cars this week and my favourites were the following: (all in diesel- I am thinking of importing from the uk....)

Choice 1 is a 2008 diesel Kia Pro-ceed
http://tinyurl.com/n8pnq8
I have to admit its based on appearance as I think its quite a cool car- same engine as ceed below but nicer looking....

Choice 2 is a Peugot 308 diesel 1.6
http://tinyurl.com/ktkl8f
I like this car and this seems to be a fairly average price in the uk at the minute.

Choice 3 is a 2008 diesel Kia Ceed preferably with less than 10000mls
http://tinyurl.com/kqf54b

Choice 4 is a 2008 diesel Hyundai i130
http://tinyurl.com/lf8tfp

So which do people think is the best car? in terms of factors like reliability, longevity, value for money, re-sale value in say 5 years?

Any thoughts, especially if you have had experience of any of these cars would be greatly appreciated
ta

rai555 · 12-07-2009, 19:03

i believe peugeot got the best diesel engine

Sqaull20 · 12-07-2009, 19:35

Might as well buy here!! When you take into account exchange rate, vrt, nct, flights, ferry and all that it doesnt make much sense imo.

Even if you get a bargain, say Pro Ceed for 11k euro, you then have to add vrt of 3k and all the rest!

You can get a new diesel awd Impreza with 150bhp for 20k here!

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...00902191447212

I have drove one of them and they are pretty rapid for a diesel.Awd and 150bhp would make motorway journeys a pleasure.

I'd imagine you could get this Pro Ceed sport for similar, but they lack the grunt of the impreza.

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...00924193089919

If power isnt on your list, you should look at the new fiesta, looks great and would be the most sellable out of all listed!

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...00918192629299

tazdustdevil · 12-07-2009, 20:56

Thanks for comments

I agree the new fiesta looks nice and is a huge improvement on old ones....

Impreza is too robbable for my needs ;o) Unfortunately I aint got 20k to spend 12 is probably my upper limit....

I love that pro-ceed sport (not in white) but just dont seem to be getting value for money here..... I've calculated that I may get a pro-ceed in from uk for 12k all in all but i would need to be getting bargaining hard...

I lived in uk for a long time and I am shocked with the way that we pay so much more from new down to second hand...

Yeah, rai555, head is telling me the peugot- my heart the pro-ceed...

rai555 · 12-07-2009, 21:25

Yeah, rai555, head is telling me the peugot- my heart the pro-ceed...[/QUOTE]

and the 7 years ( ok you'll get 6

warranty worth to consider as well

GERMAN ROCKS · 12-07-2009, 23:12

id get the peugeot. the best diesel engine on the market and probably one of the most economical cars around. also in a few years it will be easier to get parts for and mecahoncs will know more about them. kias are seen as cheap cars. the poeugeot weould have a nice bit of kit on it and looks much better

germanicus · 12-07-2009, 23:39

stay away from the peugeot their diesel engines are nowhere near as good as those of old. the turbos give a lot of trouble in the h.d.i's unless you service at half the recommended interval and even then aren't great.

dmca77 · 12-07-2009, 23:52

Have had the Ceed and the I30 as company cars.

Ceed you are looking at the 7 year warranty

i30 5 year warranty

both cars are exactly the same just a badge different

I would go for the ceed I was getting 70 mpg from dublin to belfast
i30 getting 63 mph from dublin to belfast

meesa · 12-07-2009, 23:57

The Ceed 1.6 diesel gets fantastic reviews all round, I would definitely go for it over the others.

bazz26 · 12-07-2009, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by GERMAN ROCKS

id get the peugeot. the best diesel engine on the market and probably one of the most economical cars around. also in a few years it will be easier to get parts for and mecahoncs will know more about them. kias are seen as cheap cars. the poeugeot weould have a nice bit of kit on it and looks much better

The Kia has a standard common rail diesel engine the same as the Peugeot, so to a half decent mechanic it should hold no surprises. The Kia has a 7 year warranty compared to the misserable 2 Peugeot offers so it would seem Kia have more confidence in their product than most others. Also the Kia is no longer a cheap car as you put it, they are a budget car maker but that doesn't mean they are cheaply made. In the last few years they have raised the game for Koren car manufacturers and are as good as anything else in that price range.

Quote:

Originally Posted by germanicus

stay away from the peugeot their diesel engines are nowhere near as good as those of old. the turbos give a lot of trouble in the h.d.i's unless you service at half the recommended interval and even then aren't great.

I've had that HDi engine in a Ford Focus for two years and now a Volve S40, neither have suffered any problems with turbos and both have been serviced as per their scheduled intervals.

Row · 13-07-2009, 00:15

As you quoted...
Choice 1 is a 2008 diesel Kia Pro-ceed....I think the are a nice lookin car not sure about there diesel's .....

+7 years warranty...seems attractive....

Choice 2 is a Peugot 308 diesel 1.6....I've got a 407 1.6 hdi and i'm about to change the diesel partical filter...

@ 78k ....the dual mass flywheel also needs replacment @ around 100 k..but then again most modern diesels have dpf's and dmf's nowadays so beware...

I like Peugeots but the newer one's need a nice bit of maintenance @ 85-
100kish.....

Choice 3 is a 2008 diesel Kia Ceed preferably with less than 10000mls
not sure about these but again +7 year warranty...

Choice 4 is a 2008 diesel Hyundai i130:....these are jap's so they can't be bad........i like them but then again i'm a peugeot man....

row.

Guy:Incognito · 13-07-2009, 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Row

Choice 4 is a 2008 diesel Hyundai i130:....these are jap's so they can't be bad........i like them but then again i'm a peugeot man....

row.

How do Hyundai manage to be Jap but Kia Korean?

Hint: the are'nt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai...tomotive_Group

Row · 13-07-2009, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stekelly

How do Hyundai manage to be Jap but Kia Korean?

Hint: the are'nt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai...tomotive_Group

My mistake....

.....ahh well there somewhere out there....

bazz26 · 13-07-2009, 09:32

The Hyundai i30 and Kia Cee'd are the same car with just different styling plus the Kia has a longer warranty. The 1.6 CRDi has been on sale for about 2 to 3 years now and I have heard no nightmare stories with it. It is available in two forms, 90bhp and 115bhp. The latter is available only in the top of the range model afaik.

*MetzgerMeister* · 13-07-2009, 11:43

I rented a Hyundai i30 Sport 1.6 Diesel for 2 days in June and I have to say it was an unbelievable car. I have an RX-8 so I'm used to loadsa power and I wasn't expecting much from this i30 but I was severly wrong. It looks unreal, extremely comfortable, brilliant sound system, packs quite a punch and was highly economical. It was a '08 with 2000 miles with a price tag of 23,500. Excellent value for money imho.

That said, I haven't driven any of the other cars you mentioned above.

12-07-2009, 18:08	#1
tazdustdevil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 39 Adverts \| Friends	Pro-ceed vs Peugeot 308 vs Ceed vs Hyundai i130??? Hi everyone... My car died on the M50. It had served me well but I need to get meself a new one soon. I test drove a few cars this week and my favourites were the following: (all in diesel- I am thinking of importing from the uk....) Choice 1 is a 2008 diesel Kia Pro-ceed http://tinyurl.com/n8pnq8 I have to admit its based on appearance as I think its quite a cool car- same engine as ceed below but nicer looking.... Choice 2 is a Peugot 308 diesel 1.6 http://tinyurl.com/ktkl8f I like this car and this seems to be a fairly average price in the uk at the minute. Choice 3 is a 2008 diesel Kia Ceed preferably with less than 10000mls http://tinyurl.com/kqf54b Choice 4 is a 2008 diesel Hyundai i130 http://tinyurl.com/lf8tfp So which do people think is the best car? in terms of factors like reliability, longevity, value for money, re-sale value in say 5 years? Any thoughts, especially if you have had experience of any of these cars would be greatly appreciated ta

13-07-2009, 11:43	#15
MetzgerMeister ...zum Schlachten Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tipperary Posts: 8,429 Adverts \| Friends	I rented a Hyundai i30 Sport 1.6 Diesel for 2 days in June and I have to say it was an unbelievable car. I have an RX-8 so I'm used to loadsa power and I wasn't expecting much from this i30 but I was severly wrong. It looks unreal, extremely comfortable, brilliant sound system, packs quite a punch and was highly economical. It was a '08 with 2000 miles with a price tag of 23,500. Excellent value for money imho. That said, I haven't driven any of the other cars you mentioned above. Last edited by MetzgerMeister; 13-07-2009 at 11:45.

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12-07-2009, 19:03	#2
rai555 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 543 Adverts \| Friends	i believe peugeot got the best diesel engine

12-07-2009, 19:35	#3
Sqaull20 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,038 Adverts \| Friends	Might as well buy here!! When you take into account exchange rate, vrt, nct, flights, ferry and all that it doesnt make much sense imo. Even if you get a bargain, say Pro Ceed for 11k euro, you then have to add vrt of 3k and all the rest! You can get a new diesel awd Impreza with 150bhp for 20k here! http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...00902191447212 I have drove one of them and they are pretty rapid for a diesel.Awd and 150bhp would make motorway journeys a pleasure. I'd imagine you could get this Pro Ceed sport for similar, but they lack the grunt of the impreza. http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...00924193089919 If power isnt on your list, you should look at the new fiesta, looks great and would be the most sellable out of all listed! http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...00918192629299

12-07-2009, 20:56	#4
tazdustdevil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 39 Adverts \| Friends	Thanks for comments I agree the new fiesta looks nice and is a huge improvement on old ones.... Impreza is too robbable for my needs ;o) Unfortunately I aint got 20k to spend 12 is probably my upper limit.... I love that pro-ceed sport (not in white) but just dont seem to be getting value for money here..... I've calculated that I may get a pro-ceed in from uk for 12k all in all but i would need to be getting bargaining hard... I lived in uk for a long time and I am shocked with the way that we pay so much more from new down to second hand... Yeah, rai555, head is telling me the peugot- my heart the pro-ceed...

12-07-2009, 21:25	#5
rai555 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 543 Adverts \| Friends	Yeah, rai555, head is telling me the peugot- my heart the pro-ceed...[/QUOTE] and the 7 years ( ok you'll get 6 warranty worth to consider as well

12-07-2009, 23:12	#6
GERMAN ROCKS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,490 Adverts \| Friends	id get the peugeot. the best diesel engine on the market and probably one of the most economical cars around. also in a few years it will be easier to get parts for and mecahoncs will know more about them. kias are seen as cheap cars. the poeugeot weould have a nice bit of kit on it and looks much better

12-07-2009, 23:39	#7
germanicus Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 70 Adverts \| Friends	stay away from the peugeot their diesel engines are nowhere near as good as those of old. the turbos give a lot of trouble in the h.d.i's unless you service at half the recommended interval and even then aren't great.

12-07-2009, 23:52	#8
dmca77 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 77 Adverts \| Friends	Have had the Ceed and the I30 as company cars. Ceed you are looking at the 7 year warranty i30 5 year warranty both cars are exactly the same just a badge different I would go for the ceed I was getting 70 mpg from dublin to belfast i30 getting 63 mph from dublin to belfast

12-07-2009, 23:57	#9
meesa Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 117 Adverts \| Friends	The Ceed 1.6 diesel gets fantastic reviews all round, I would definitely go for it over the others.

13-07-2009, 00:15	#11
Row Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Galway Posts: 1,556 Adverts \| Friends	As you quoted... Choice 1 is a 2008 diesel Kia Pro-ceed....I think the are a nice lookin car not sure about there diesel's ..... +7 years warranty...seems attractive.... Choice 2 is a Peugot 308 diesel 1.6....I've got a 407 1.6 hdi and i'm about to change the diesel partical filter... @ 78k ....the dual mass flywheel also needs replacment @ around 100 k..but then again most modern diesels have dpf's and dmf's nowadays so beware... I like Peugeots but the newer one's need a nice bit of maintenance @ 85- 100kish..... Choice 3 is a 2008 diesel Kia Ceed preferably with less than 10000mls not sure about these but again +7 year warranty... Choice 4 is a 2008 diesel Hyundai i130:....these are jap's so they can't be bad........i like them but then again i'm a peugeot man.... row.

13-07-2009, 09:32	#14
bazz26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Co. Limerick Posts: 20,063 Adverts \| Friends	The Hyundai i30 and Kia Cee'd are the same car with just different styling plus the Kia has a longer warranty. The 1.6 CRDi has been on sale for about 2 to 3 years now and I have heard no nightmare stories with it. It is available in two forms, 90bhp and 115bhp. The latter is available only in the top of the range model afaik.