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Old 09-07-2009, 09:29   #1
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Sláinte dona agaibh

Sláinte dona agaibh/agat etc

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Is this an acceptable way to write 'may you have bad health'? 'May you all have bad health'
It sounds evil and I'd NEVER wish it on someone but I was wondering if you can say that. If the grammar is correct. Say you were leaving a crowd and you decided to be rude to them. Or if someone left you and you said 'Sláinte dona leat' I mean you could put something else instead of dona. Like 'iontach' or would it be hiontach'. I think you all get my idea though.


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I saw this site:

http://www.iontach.org/

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Iontach

An adjective meaning:

wonderful, marvellous, exceptional, astonishing, unusual, strange

An rud is annamh, is iontach.

An adverb meaning:

extremely, very

Beidh an suíomh seo iontach maith!
How do you say 'Extremely wonderful', then??!? 'Tá sé hiontach iontach?' (He is extremely wonderful?) I'm confused

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Old 09-07-2009, 12:04   #2
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iontach smiontach???

goa
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:21   #3
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I guess if you were wishing bad health on someone, off the top of my head it could maybe be translated as "Drochshláinte ort" - similar structure to "Beannacht Dé ort". Someone else might have a better suggestion though.

I wonder could you turn a phrase like "Dia leat" on it's head and say "Diabhail leat", or "An diabhail leat". Of course, none of those work for an atheist like meself. Now that I think about it - and being the petty, vindictive and grudge-bearing person that I am - I'd be curious to know if there's a way of greeting someone I don't like which doesn't involve wishing good on them in some way. Even "Sé do bheatha" is far too nice & friendly!

In the same way that there are weblinks & resources for blessings and proverbs, there must be a resource for some good curses. Anybody got some, I think I'd be highly entertained by learning them!
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Old 09-07-2009, 13:56   #4
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I guess if you were wishing bad health on someone, off the top of my head it could maybe be translated as "Drochshláinte ort" - similar structure to "Beannacht Dé ort". Someone else might have a better suggestion though.

I wonder could you turn a phrase like "Dia leat" on it's head and say "Diabhail leat", or "An diabhail leat". Of course, none of those work for an atheist like meself. Now that I think about it - and being the petty, vindictive and grudge-bearing person that I am - I'd be curious to know if there's a way of greeting someone I don't like which doesn't involve wishing good on them in some way. Even "Sé do bheatha" is far too nice & friendly!

In the same way that there are weblinks & resources for blessings and proverbs, there must be a resource for some good curses. Anybody got some, I think I'd be highly entertained by learning them!
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:12   #5
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iontach smiontach???

goa
So... 'táim go hiontach smiontach?' I'm still just learning Irish, so my knowledge of the grammar isn't very good yet. Why has it got 'sm' in front of it now?


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I guess if you were wishing bad health on someone, off the top of my head it could maybe be translated as "Drochshláinte ort" - similar structure to "Beannacht Dé ort". Someone else might have a better suggestion though.

I wonder could you turn a phrase like "Dia leat" on it's head and say "Diabhail leat", or "An diabhail leat". Of course, none of those work for an atheist like meself. Now that I think about it - and being the petty, vindictive and grudge-bearing person that I am - I'd be curious to know if there's a way of greeting someone I don't like which doesn't involve wishing good on them in some way. Even "Sé do bheatha" is far too nice & friendly!

In the same way that there are weblinks & resources for blessings and proverbs, there must be a resource for some good curses. Anybody got some, I think I'd be highly entertained by learning them!
It sounds evil that I want to know, doesn't it! HAHAHA it's more a grammatical question I suppose, than anything else, or how the language is put together. I'm not sure what you just typed, still being a beginner to Irish, except 'ort' is 'evil' isn't it?

Oh I have a site for you. Whether the grammar is actually correct though...there aren't many really terrible words in Irish, but there are ways to say things. For example 'May you have a bad day' or whatever. It's not bad language but it's not a nice thing to say to someone. Might PM it to you because it has porn all over it. I'd rather someone didn't inadvertently click it.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:12   #6
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no sorry - i was joking - - goa (gaire os airde) = lol

iontach smiontach is said by some irish speakers, i doubt gaeltacht speakers use it....

as far as i am aware it isnt irish really... iontach is great and smiontach is a made up rhyme

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i know that site you are talking about i got in trouble posting the link on here, or possibly some other forum.

its a good list, shame about the other content...
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no sorry - i was joking - - goa (gaire os airde) = lol

iontach smiontach is said by some irish speakers, i doubt gaeltacht speakers use it....

as far as i am aware it isnt irish really... iontach is great and smiontach is a made up rhyme

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i know that site you are talking about i got in trouble posting the link on here, or possibly some other forum.

its a good list, shame about the other content...
Bah, agreed. I had to private message it to Mr Chips, not because I've been told off, but because I don't like the fact kids might see it or something and it's kind of vulgar considering message boards are accessible usually to most ages!! Eek! Hhaa yeah I know...I guess better to go through the private messaging system with that stuff
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