Ways of reviving irish ?

[KeyLimePie]

So Does anyone here have any great ideas on how to revive irish ?

Personally ! I think the government should launch a nationwide initiave to get people working in service sectors to have some irish, like offer grants for employers to send like 3 staff on an irish language course so if someone wants to say ba mhaith liom thé to them they'll be able to say is ea =p

Or the leaving cert, I fully believe that it should be a compulsory subject but we should definitely change the way it's thought ! We need to know SOME bit about grammar, like how there's two common patterns and like 9 irregular verbs, and the male and female nouns too :\ and the oral needs to be changed as well, not to have a great big spiel about where you're born and where you live but like an actual conversation, maybe with roleplays on inviting a friend to a cinema, or talking about a concert ye went to

Anyway that's my two cents...

[conchubhar1]

well i definitely agree about the grammar in school - its muck
i was in college before i knew the rules of the tuiseal ginideach or th g.c

[markopantelic]

its as tough as trying to figure out how to get the masses to go and watch the league of ireland, i don't think there is much than can be done tbh particulary in working class areas, there is an unnatural contempt towards the language but I see things progressing all the time, i'll definetly probably my future children to a non-demominational gaelscoil(lol long way till then 2040 prob )

[dlofnep]

Educational reform Introduction of conversational classes from an early age. As I've stated time and time again, I picked up most of my Irish through a conversational group. Much more than I ever learned in school. I think this would be of great benefit to students. Once they have the language, then the option is there for them to use it..

[Poxyshamrock]

They should make it optional in school.

Most people HATE irish as a result of the subject.


Although, the oral being increased to 40% is a great way of moving from written irish to spoken irish.

[Redbhoy]

Convert all pre-schools and primary schools to Irish Medium schools. 100% fluency within a few generations!
FF have had 80 odd years and fooked it up!

The public service do have schemes to promote Irish. Gaeleagras provide scholarships to the Gaeltacht. http://www.finance.gov.ie/gaeleagras...sp&UserLang=GA

The more opportunities people have to speak the language the better. Conversational groups and other activities through the medium of Irish!

Happy Hour Prices to anyone who converses As Gaeilge in pubs. That'll have the nation speaking quicker than the Gaelscoileanna.

[Damomayo]

Has anybody done the Gaeleagras course .... or know the timetable for the week.
How about places to stay while there, go to the hotel or bean an ti (boards don't seem to like fada) gaire as ard

[Baile an Locha]

Total immersion in Irish from the start of school to second class,then 50% irish-english until the end of primary school. I actually believe this could revive the language, We would be fluent in irish by the end of primary school. It would force primary school teachers to improve their standard of irish and over time the national standard. Thats my opinion anyway.

[LimeFruitGum]

We're actually trying to promote the use of Irish at work amongst staff who are interested in the language. In our Outlook signatures, we have our job titles in Irish and English and customers rather like it .

By the way, I wouldn't consider myself a fully-fledged Gaelgóir, I still have to check "Cruinnscríobh", but I would definitely have the best Irish in the office.

Personally, I think there are too many books targeted at either beginners or fluent speakers. It is harder to find books that are suitable for intermediate level, i mo thuairimse.
Also, writing business emails in Irish can be trickier than you think, so I'd love a resource that gave some pointers on that. I remember Gaeleagras had a useful "nathanna" page, but I don't think it has been updated for a good while.

The Official Standard is scheduled for a revision within the next 2 years or so, but I don't expect any radical changes. I doubt they're going to get rid of the Tuiseal Ginideach just because students don't like it

[Redbhoy]

Originally Posted by LimeFruitGum

We're actually trying to promote the use of Irish at work amongst staff who are interested in the language.
Personally, I think there are too many books targeted at either beginners or fluent speakers. It is harder to find books that are suitable for intermediate level, i mo thuairimse.
Also, writing business emails in Irish can be trickier than you think, so I'd love a resource that gave some pointers on that. I remember Gaeleagras had a useful "nathanna" page, but I don't think it has been updated for a good while.

Fair play on promoting the language in your office.
Turas Teanga is geared towards intermediate level.
Id say if you contacted http://www.coimisineir.ie/ they could help you with the business emails.

[piby]

Well the first major problem to begin with is, as has been pointed out, many people actually have contempt for the language. I've lost count, as I'm sure many of you have, of hearing how it's stupid and useless in today's society etc etc. So we can talk about introducing all sorts of measures and while that may have a slight benefit over the short term, in the long term it's not going to do anything by itself.

What is needed is a fundamental change in attitude. You go about this in two ways. Firstly the school issue. We need to remove the dislike for the language that is instilled at that age and we need a much greater emphasis on spoken Irish (via methods discussed above). Think we all could speak English before we could write it and that's being completely surrounded by it from birth. Secondly, there need's to be the reason/oppurtunity to use it and now we see the things suggested above coming into play. One of mine is that I believe that all state bodies (military, police, government etc.) should conduct all affairs as Gaeilge although how realistic this is I don't know.

A combination of these two approaches is the best strategy IMO but we also have to realise that Irish isn't spoken outside this island and it's not endemic to begin with so it's always going to require a concerted and sustained effort to keep it alive.

[lapses]

Just thought I'd share a small story

Me and my gf were on holidays recently and there was alot of people from cuba and dominica republic etc... and constantly we would be with these people having the craic then suddenly one or two of them would exchange a few words in there native tongue... and both me and my gf knew that about 90% of the time they were talking bout us. So we started speakin Irish (our very crap Irish mind you) and eventually people stopped doing that on us.

Now we still do it here simply because people at bus stops and in shopping cues are deadly at eavesdropping...

And now 2 of our mates are getting in on it, simply so they can talk to each other in a packed room and not have everybody knowing their business.

[Nuggles]

In Dundalk?

Most probably have the same level of broken Irish as you.

They know!

[Poll Dubh]

These threads about reviving Irish always make me laugh. Those taking part get great practice of their English.

[mega man]

Originally Posted by KeyLimePie

So Does anyone here have any great ideas on how to revive irish ?

Personally ! I think the government should launch a nationwide initiave to get people working in service sectors to have some irish, like offer grants for employers to send like 3 staff on an irish language course so if someone wants to say ba mhaith liom thé to them they'll be able to say is ea =p

Or the leaving cert, I fully believe that it should be a compulsory subject but we should definitely change the way it's thought ! We need to know SOME bit about grammar, like how there's two common patterns and like 9 irregular verbs, and the male and female nouns too :\ and the oral needs to be changed as well, not to have a great big spiel about where you're born and where you live but like an actual conversation, maybe with roleplays on inviting a friend to a cinema, or talking about a concert ye went to

Anyway that's my two cents...

The biggest obstacle in reviving irish is the native irish speaker