drop grammar and rules?

[conchubhar1]

is it time that all grammar in english be dropped or simplified

it is growing as a world language, second but still.



the one reason i love and use english as much as irish (despite neccessity) is how malleable it is - im aware you can do these with nearly all langauges but in english it is just accepted as the meaning is well recognised by most

for example you can take an noun mash it in with another word and make it into a verb or whatever and your meaning will be understood

thoughts?

[FlutterinBantam]

No, never, no way.!!!

It would just end up as a "wanker's charter" then Con.

English properly spoken and written, is a great way of finding out what type of person,and publication, to avoid.

Look at the "Redtops" the way they have bastardised the language and given the two fingers to society.

Dumbing things down to accommodate the lowest denominator is not the way to go.If some people are too lazy to use proper grammar and spelling and make no attempt at punctuation,well let them stew in their own juice.

lazy sods!!





rant over

[conchubhar1]

communication is the point of language

if you cant tell what type of person or publication is, well thats laziness on your part

it is not dumbing it down - it is making it more accessible

more flexibility....

[bluewolf]

Some people are lazy, therefore it's not accessible?
The grammar and rules are there so we can all understand each other. Believe it or not, some people sounding/typing like monkeys on coke are NOT necessarily understandable to everyone else.

You're right. Communication IS the point of language. Glad we're agreed.

[Fluffybums]

Grammer (loose as it is in English) and punctuation make sense of the words. They can add subelty to the language. If you wan to get rid of them then why bother with spelling - at some point when all the rules are gone none of would understand each other because we would all have our own personal language.

As it is English evolves (compare Shakespearing English to modern English) which is its strength.
The flexibility of the spoken language makes it accessible to non-native speakers.

[pickarooney]

the one reason i love and use english as much as irish (despite neccessity) is how malleable it is - im aware you can do these with nearly all langauges but in english it is just accepted as the meaning is well recognised by most

This is a prime example of someone just throwing words together and making no sense.
"Do these" has no referent in the sentence so it's impossible to know what you're trying to say. Likewise "it is just accepted" - what is, and by whom?

[ColmDawson]

Originally Posted by pickarooney

This is a prime example of someone just throwing words together and making no sense.
"Do these" has no referent in the sentence so it's impossible to know what you're trying to say. Likewise "it is just accepted" - what is, and by whom?

I know you're trying to make a point, but it certainly is possible to understand what he was saying.

[conchubhar1]

Originally Posted by ColmDawson

I know you're trying to make a point, but it certainly is possible to understand what he was saying.

in fact, my wording was chosen to make that point

[conchubhar1]

Originally Posted by pickarooney

Likewise "it is just accepted" - what is, and by whom?

by people who just get on with it once they grasp the meaning of what people say.

what = sentences which the meaning is there but may not be fully correct english (what this is is debateable as there is no body governing it).

who = see above the ''what'' point.

[Soulja boy]

removing punctuation from forum posts can create a stream of consciousness flow while scrolling through a thread

however there are very few other situations where this applies

[conchubhar1]

punctution is important obviously, as it distinguished where words start and end as with sentences and paragraphs. grammar not so much, spelling is in the middle once the meaning stays it is grand - except for official purposes that would look bad if it was spelt wrong etc..

[FlutterinBantam]

Looks we are practicing what we preach here.

[conchubhar1]

Oh you get the point now.


Now, do you want to make any actual points?

[FlutterinBantam]

See post #2 Conch.

Personally I class myself as an erudite incisive kind of person, I don't keep labouring points ad infinitum(Latin phrase= to infinity, or endlessy)

[Yoda]

If one has low standards one gets what one deserves.

I don't think that excuses should be made for carelessness. It is never "too much trouble" to use capital letters or apostrophes, or to go back and correct a misspelling when one writes a posting.

English could use a measure of spelling reform. I like Axel Wijk's Regularized English. But "dropping grammar" makes no sense.