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sf147 · 07-05-2009, 12:30

Hi Guys,

Wondering what everyone thinks of Riddlers as the new gay bar in Limerick. So far I'm mixed on it, it's great to have a gay spot in Limerick but I find it gets a really mixed crowd in there. Was there on Saturday night and there was quite a rough crowd there making comments and laughing at some people. As me, my girlfriend and our friends were leaving some guy remarked 'They couldn't all be dykes could they'?
I really wanted to go back but then you think what's the point of drawing that on you, talk about making some fools life by getting into an arguement with 4 lesbians

I know that comments like that are a fact of life for a lot of us, and usually I wouldn't take offence, but when you're in a gay bar you usually let your guard down a little bit so it's really annoying when you have to listen to that when you out of a night.

What do ye think? I'd like to think the doormen would turn away anyone that they think is just going in to give abuse etc...

crotalus667 · 08-05-2009, 11:27

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Originally Posted by sf147

What do ye think? I'd like to think the doormen would turn away anyone that they think is just going in to give abuse etc...

Did you say anthing to the door man or another member of staff ???

Millie · 08-05-2009, 11:34

Some people are just so ignorant.
When you are out having a few pints why would you be bothered by anybody else's life.
Stupid, stupid, ignorant people.

Cabbage Brained · 09-05-2009, 04:14

Can't believe they called a gay bar "Riddlers", riddled immediately comes to mind.

sf147 · 09-05-2009, 23:21

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Originally Posted by crotalus667

Did you say anthing to the door man or another member of staff ???

No I didn't as we were halfway out the door when the comment was passed and I didn't feel like making an issue of it at the time.

These guys were clearly not in a gay bar to pull, they were there to take the piss and make other people feel uncomfortable! The bouncers should have copped this on their way in and advised them to head somewhere else for a drink.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to have a quiet drink in a gay bar without that rubbish!

Friends · 10-05-2009, 00:32

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Originally Posted by Cabbage Brained

Can't believe they called a gay bar "Riddlers", riddled immediately comes to mind.

haha or how about the fact the local joke is calling it "fiddlers" lol

catchup · 15-05-2009, 11:22

Who has decided that its a gay bar? Whoever it is needs to decide what clientele they let in and keep out. Otherwise it doesn't deserve to be supported.

Ashen Light · 19-05-2009, 19:05

The problem is that Riddlers isn't a new bar, but a bar that that closed down, eventually reopened and branded a "gay bar". So a lot of people who used to go there went back again (quite an "interesting" crowd..), probably originally not knowing it was a gay bar (apart from the flag, it's not that obvious).

Once they started going back, I think it's become a case of "well, this was our bar first". It's not something I can see being resolved easily, tbh. It doesn't help that nothing has changed since it was a "heavy" crowd pub. Not the name, not the decor. Nothing. (again, apart from the flag)

Basically, it seems like the management is trying to please both groups, but if something isn't sorted soon, neither will want to go there anyway.

Friends · 19-05-2009, 23:04

Sorry, but you cannot please both groups if one group behaves like that.

The promoter of the pub as a gay venture is in this months GCN he should be contacted and informed of these issues (can't remember a name). But I really feel you can't decide to make a venue a gay venue, take money from the gay community and then leave them to be harassed at that very same gay night from former clientele.

Seriously, they would want to wise up to the fact that there is more to the promotion of gay nights than just throwing up a flag and taking in money.

DubArk · 20-05-2009, 13:17

It sounds like a half arsed set up to me.

Contact the managment and tell them that if they are truely a Gay Bar then they need to cater for their Gay customers as well as been Straight friendly and if there wasn't a marked improvment then vote with your feet!! The "Pink Pound" is a very strong argument!! Hanging a Rainbow Flag doesn't make it a Gay Bar! I'd even go further and contact the Gay Press and get an interview and OUT them as been a Fake Gay Bar if you really find them to be uncooperative.

"The Riddler" been refered to as "The Fiddler" is maybe NOT a good start! How 80's....

shoegirl · 20-05-2009, 17:50

Its very common when a bar reopens and the old customers all come back assuming nothing has changed. Make sure to mention it to staff next time you are there and I am sure that gradually they will filter out troublemakers. If they genuinely want the pink business they will sooner or later make an effort to filter this out.

But I am glad to finally see something proper in Limerick, I go up a lot for matches and there has really been nothing. Nice to see that change.

JupiterKid · 21-05-2009, 03:18

IMO Limerick, along with all its other problems, is a very homophobic place so I'm frankly not surprised by that sort of carry on in Ridlers.

Sure it's proving very difficult to even sustain a stable gay scene in the city.

Friends · 21-05-2009, 21:41

Could we PLEASE have some reports of actual visits
to this bar.
Comments about it (without having been there) or comments about
Limerick are beside the point.
Thanks in advance.

DubArk · 09-06-2009, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Could we PLEASE have some reports of actual visits
to this bar.
Comments about it (without having been there) or comments about
Limerick are beside the point.
Thanks in advance.

Read the thread..... Thats how we started to discuss!!!

Daisy D · 28-07-2009, 11:54

Was in Riddlers a few times. It's a shame the person who started this thread got a remark like that. But, I am going to suggest almost every bar in any major city will have people in there who get past the doormen and gossip about the other people there. Unfortunately they weren't very discreet. Also, there's no reason why Riddlers should change the layout at all because it has opened up as a gay bar. The flag is a universal symbol, and that is more than enough for me. The Limerick scene is VERY big! You wouldn't think it but Confessions opened in Scotts few weeks ago and was jammers. I did a show in Riddlers also 2 weeks ago and place was brimming at the seams! As someone who has been there 3 times and live in Cork I think it's a nice fine big pub, Mike is the Manager and he's one of the nicest guys around, really working hard to make the place/gay scene work!

I totally understand your annoyance though, and you SHOULD have gone back and spoke to the manager.

07-05-2009, 12:30	#1
sf147 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12 Adverts \| Friends	Riddlers in Limerick (New Gay Bar) Hi Guys, Wondering what everyone thinks of Riddlers as the new gay bar in Limerick. So far I'm mixed on it, it's great to have a gay spot in Limerick but I find it gets a really mixed crowd in there. Was there on Saturday night and there was quite a rough crowd there making comments and laughing at some people. As me, my girlfriend and our friends were leaving some guy remarked 'They couldn't all be dykes could they'? I really wanted to go back but then you think what's the point of drawing that on you, talk about making some fools life by getting into an arguement with 4 lesbians I know that comments like that are a fact of life for a lot of us, and usually I wouldn't take offence, but when you're in a gay bar you usually let your guard down a little bit so it's really annoying when you have to listen to that when you out of a night. What do ye think? I'd like to think the doormen would turn away anyone that they think is just going in to give abuse etc...

20-05-2009, 13:17	#10
DubArk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mind your own! Posts: 783 Adverts \| Friends	It sounds like a half arsed set up to me. Contact the managment and tell them that if they are truely a Gay Bar then they need to cater for their Gay customers as well as been Straight friendly and if there wasn't a marked improvment then vote with your feet!! The "Pink Pound" is a very strong argument!! Hanging a Rainbow Flag doesn't make it a Gay Bar! I'd even go further and contact the Gay Press and get an interview and OUT them as been a Fake Gay Bar if you really find them to be uncooperative. "The Riddler" been refered to as "The Fiddler" is maybe NOT a good start! How 80's.... Last edited by DubArk; 20-05-2009 at 13:19.

08-05-2009, 11:34	#3
Millie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 563 Adverts \| Friends	Some people are just so ignorant. When you are out having a few pints why would you be bothered by anybody else's life. Stupid, stupid, ignorant people.

09-05-2009, 04:14	#4
Cabbage Brained Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 64 Adverts \| Friends	Can't believe they called a gay bar "Riddlers", riddled immediately comes to mind.

15-05-2009, 11:22	#7
catchup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 60 Adverts \| Friends	Who has decided that its a gay bar? Whoever it is needs to decide what clientele they let in and keep out. Otherwise it doesn't deserve to be supported.

19-05-2009, 19:05	#8
Ashen Light Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Limerick Posts: 8 Adverts \| Friends	The problem is that Riddlers isn't a new bar, but a bar that that closed down, eventually reopened and branded a "gay bar". So a lot of people who used to go there went back again (quite an "interesting" crowd..), probably originally not knowing it was a gay bar (apart from the flag, it's not that obvious). Once they started going back, I think it's become a case of "well, this was our bar first". It's not something I can see being resolved easily, tbh. It doesn't help that nothing has changed since it was a "heavy" crowd pub. Not the name, not the decor. Nothing. (again, apart from the flag) Basically, it seems like the management is trying to please both groups, but if something isn't sorted soon, neither will want to go there anyway.

19-05-2009, 23:04	#9
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a Adverts \| Friends	Sorry, but you cannot please both groups if one group behaves like that. The promoter of the pub as a gay venture is in this months GCN he should be contacted and informed of these issues (can't remember a name). But I really feel you can't decide to make a venue a gay venue, take money from the gay community and then leave them to be harassed at that very same gay night from former clientele. Seriously, they would want to wise up to the fact that there is more to the promotion of gay nights than just throwing up a flag and taking in money.

20-05-2009, 17:50	#11
shoegirl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,900 Adverts \| Friends	Its very common when a bar reopens and the old customers all come back assuming nothing has changed. Make sure to mention it to staff next time you are there and I am sure that gradually they will filter out troublemakers. If they genuinely want the pink business they will sooner or later make an effort to filter this out. But I am glad to finally see something proper in Limerick, I go up a lot for matches and there has really been nothing. Nice to see that change.

21-05-2009, 03:18	#12
JupiterKid Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and there Posts: 2,609 Adverts \| Friends	IMO Limerick, along with all its other problems, is a very homophobic place so I'm frankly not surprised by that sort of carry on in Ridlers. Sure it's proving very difficult to even sustain a stable gay scene in the city.

21-05-2009, 21:41	#13
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a Adverts \| Friends	Could we PLEASE have some reports of actual visits to this bar. Comments about it (without having been there) or comments about Limerick are beside the point. Thanks in advance.

28-07-2009, 11:54	#15
Daisy D Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 54 Adverts \| Friends	Was in Riddlers a few times. It's a shame the person who started this thread got a remark like that. But, I am going to suggest almost every bar in any major city will have people in there who get past the doormen and gossip about the other people there. Unfortunately they weren't very discreet. Also, there's no reason why Riddlers should change the layout at all because it has opened up as a gay bar. The flag is a universal symbol, and that is more than enough for me. The Limerick scene is VERY big! You wouldn't think it but Confessions opened in Scotts few weeks ago and was jammers. I did a show in Riddlers also 2 weeks ago and place was brimming at the seams! As someone who has been there 3 times and live in Cork I think it's a nice fine big pub, Mike is the Manager and he's one of the nicest guys around, really working hard to make the place/gay scene work! *I totally understand your annoyance though, and you SHOULD* have gone back and spoke to the manager.**