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03-03-2012, 02:21   #331
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Ended up in the red today and had to get petrol here after all

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Topaz at the the Bodkin roundabout is 163.9 too today. Not a bloody chance!
So after reading someones post in here about being overcharged I stopped at 10 litres purely out of curiously and it cost 16.41.

In fairness it's only 2 tenths of a cent over but out of principle I told yerman behind the register when I was paying. Got the reply 'yeah what do you want me to do about it?'. Nice sh*t! After handing over 50 quid and that's the attitude, never again!

I didn't see the price below 163.9 anywhere until I got to Clare again.
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Ended up in the red today and had to get petrol here after all



So after reading someones post in here about being overcharged I stopped at 10 litres purely out of curiously and it cost 16.41.

In fairness it's only 2 tenths of a cent over but out of principle I told yerman behind the register when I was paying. Got the reply 'yeah what do you want me to do about it?'. Nice sh*t! After handing over 50 quid and that's the attitude, never again!

I didn't see the price below 163.9 anywhere until I got to Clare again.
Actually you were overcharged by 2 cents not 2 tenths of a cent.
Multiply that by the amount of fuel the garage sells in a week/month/year and the garage is robbing people of a nice sum of money.
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Actually you were overcharged by 2 cents not 2 tenths of a cent.
Multiply that by the amount of fuel the garage sells in a week/month/year and the garage is robbing people of a nice sum of money.
161.9 in Emo and Top in Salthill. Thats what it was 2 days ago anyway!
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Why is fuel cheaper in dublin and cork? diesel is 154.9 in most places around there.
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So after reading someones post in here about being overcharged I stopped at 10 litres purely out of curiously and it cost 16.41.

In fairness it's only 2 tenths of a cent over but out of principle I told yerman behind the register when I was paying. Got the reply 'yeah what do you want me to do about it?'. Nice sh*t! After handing over 50 quid and that's the attitude, never again!
Actually you were overcharged by 2 cents not 2 tenths of a cent.
Multiply that by the amount of fuel the garage sells in a week/month/year and the garage is robbing people of a nice sum of money.
I don't see how you work out anyone is being ripped off in this situation? The OP stopped when the pump showed 10 litres. Presuming, like most pumps in Ireland it displays to the nearest 10ml it, the display actually read 10.00 litres. But, because the display only shows you two decimal places the 10.00 actually means the range from 10.0000-10.0099. And the price over that range is €16.39 if you got exactly 10.0000; €16.40 if you get 10.0032 litres or €16.41 if you got 10.0092. So three different prices, all accurate, and all while the display reads 10.00 litres. If it were more than €0.02 absolute difference (like your earlier post) then that would be proof there is something suspicious but, on the basis of the information given, there isn't necessarily anything untoward going on.

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03-03-2012, 21:33   #336
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Petrol 157.9 in Ballindine, if anyone is heading to Sligo or Mayo.
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Petrol 161.9, Diesel is 157.9 in Glynns opposite Airport. Cheapest I have seen around Galway in the last week
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Petrol 161.9, Diesel is 157.9 in Glynns opposite Airport. Cheapest I have seen around Galway in the last week
they are only that cheap because of yer man up at Grealishes who is usually a cent cheaper

If it wasnt for him, you can be sure they'd be the same as the rest
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I don't see how you work out anyone is being ripped off in this situation? The OP stopped when the pump showed 10 litres. Presuming, like most pumps in Ireland it displays to the nearest 10ml it, the display actually read 10.00 litres. But, because the display only shows you two decimal places the 10.00 actually means the range from 10.0000-10.0099. And the price over that range is €16.39 if you got exactly 10.0000; €16.40 if you get 10.0032 litres or €16.41 if you got 10.0092. So three different prices, all accurate, and all while the display reads 10.00 litres. If it were more than €0.02 absolute difference (like your earlier post) then that would be proof there is something suspicious but, on the basis of the information given, there isn't necessarily anything untoward going on.
I would agree with you except for the fact that at the garage which I usually use in Ballindine, which a poster has mentioned, is not only cheaper but their pumps read spot on to the cent.
If they can do it so can others.
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I don't see how you work out anyone is being ripped off in this situation? The OP stopped when the pump showed 10 litres. Presuming, like most pumps in Ireland it displays to the nearest 10ml it, the display actually read 10.00 litres. But, because the display only shows you two decimal places the 10.00 actually means the range from 10.0000-10.0099. And the price over that range is €16.39 if you got exactly 10.0000; €16.40 if you get 10.0032 litres or €16.41 if you got 10.0092. So three different prices, all accurate, and all while the display reads 10.00 litres. If it were more than €0.02 absolute difference (like your earlier post) then that would be proof there is something suspicious but, on the basis of the information given, there isn't necessarily anything untoward going on.
Why if as you say pumps read to the nearest 10ml are you using measures of 4 decimal places and not 3?I'm bamboozled
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165.9 / l Petrol at O' Connors Garage, Cong today....
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Why if as you say pumps read to the nearest 10ml are you using measures of 4 decimal places and not 3?I'm bamboozled
Pumps display to two decimal places but they read more accurately than that. If they only counted on the basis of what they displayed then the counter that shows the amount you should pay would jump in increments of €0.01639. For example, it would jump from €0.00 to €0.02 (10ml/0.01 litres) then €0.03 (20ml/0.02 litres), €0.05 (30ml/0.03 litres) etc. But it doesn't do that. It climbs smoothly.
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Pumps display to two decimal places but they read more accurately than that. If they only counted on the basis of what they displayed then the counter that shows the amount you should pay would jump in increments of €0.01639. For example, it would jump from €0.00 to €0.02 (10ml/0.01 litres) then €0.03 (20ml/0.02 litres), €0.05 (30ml/0.03 litres) etc. But it doesn't do that. It climbs smoothly.
This is all very well, but you are going off track slightly. If I put in 10 ltrs @ 161.8 cents per ltr, which I did, I don't be expected to be asked to pay more than 16.18 euro which I was. I was asked to pay 16.78 euro, which I refused to pay.
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This is all very well, but you are going off track slightly. If I put in 10 ltrs @ 161.8 cents per ltr, which I did, I don't be expected to be asked to pay more than 16.18 euro which I was. I was asked to pay 16.78 euro, which I refused to pay.
You were definitely over charged but the post above is not going off track. It is simple mathematics. 10.00999999999 litres of fuel would still cost €16.34 and this would register as 10 litres exactly on the pump. If you were charged between €16.18 and €16.34 you would not be overcharged but in this case you were overcharged by at least 44 cent or 4.4 cent per litre. As a rule of thumb for 10 litres of fuel allow for an overall rounding discrepancy of 10% of the per litre cost.
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You were definitely over charged but the post above is not going off track. It is simple mathematics. 10.00999999999 litres of fuel would still cost €16.34 and this would register as 10 litres exactly on the pump. If you were charged between €16.18 and €16.34 you would not be overcharged but in this case you were overcharged by at least 44 cent or 4.4 cent per litre. As a rule of thumb for 10 litres of fuel allow for an overall rounding discrepancy of 10% of the per litre cost.
I fully understand the mathematics as I spent many years working in accounts and statistics offices, my point is that the pumps should be accurate to the number of decimal point shown on the pump which is 2.

If someone would tell be how to insert a 'photo of the pump in question I will do so as I took one at the time.

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