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*gurramok* · 02-02-2010, 15:25

And yesterday, it took 20minutes to travel from the Maldron Hotel on Cardiff Lane to all the way up to the Five Lamps via Seville Place. Each light was red, thats just ridiculous.

It would be quicker to go the old way down Amiens st, that defeats the purpose of the new bridge due to bad lights synchronisation.

Coming back southbound, its a disaster more so on Macken st. Its not looking good at all to make the bridge useful.

AlekSmart · 02-02-2010, 15:57

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Macken Street is almost entirely residential. There are more people living in the Macken St/Cardiff Lane area than 10 years ago, because of new development.

I am minded of the late Noel Carroll`s quote on the amount of givin out the Corpo was getting about flooding along the River Tolka....."Well if yiz live beside a river,yiz`ll have to expect a bit of floodin` every now and then"

Pure true,Urban living,particularly in a dockside environment brings with it all the sights,sounds and smells of a populated City....if one values the peaceful tranquility of the countryside,then there are vast amounts of empty properties going a-begging in Leitrim,Sligo,Roscommon and Donegal to mention but a few...just give NAMA a ring and make an offer....plenty of tranquility available for those that need it.

This bridge has to be viewed as a piece of FUNCTIONAL Traffic Management infrastructure integral with the Citys Traffic Management Plan as a WHOLE.

Currently it appears to have little status other than as a localized €65 Million piece of modernistic steelwork with which to adorn the "rejuvenated" quays.

The Swordsman · 02-02-2010, 16:54

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Originally Posted by antoinolachtnai

Macken Street is almost entirely residential. There are more people living in the Macken St/Cardiff Lane area than 10 years ago, because of new development.

Isn't it funny how nobody worried about the impact on Macken Street/Cardiff Lane when there was block upon block of apartments, offices and hotels being built in the area.

Snickers Man · 02-02-2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by antoinolachtnai

Macken Street is almost entirely residential. There are more people living in the Macken St/Cardiff Lane area than 10 years ago, because of new development.

I cannot recall seeing a single residence fronting on to Cardiff Lane. There are a handfull (maybe two or three) at the Pearse St end of Macken St itself.

The residents of Cardiff Lane are in newly built apartment blocks which, presumably, as I believe it is a condition of getting planning permission for such edifices in Dublin city, have their own built in car parks. Therefore there is no need for on-street parking for their residents.

Having that street permanently blocked by Double Parked taxis flashing their hazards while they await their fare coming from the hotel is just ridiculous.

*gurramok* · 24-02-2010, 17:15

This morning like the previous mornings, the right turn from Pearse st onto Macken st was a nightmare. The filter light only lasts for maybe at most 10 seconds hence about 20 cars were backed up to over the bridge blocking city bound traffic and forcing them onto the bus lane.

I gave up this morning turning right(there were others who gave up too) and decided to go the old route down Pearse st and over up by Gardiner st. It was actually slightly quicker than using the new bridge.

Also the filter light in the evenings for right turning traffic from Guild st onto the North quays was a similar nightmare in that I had seen cars and vans doing U-turns and heading back westwards towards the city in order to get to the south quays westbound.

So on the traffic lights front including what I highlighted in my previous post on the journey to the Five Lamps, the bridge is fast losing its purpose at alleviating city bound traffic imho.

expectationlost · 24-02-2010, 17:29

beckett-bridge-shut-for-safety-check

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/c...s-2076984.html

CountingCrows · 26-02-2010, 09:12

Was walking by bridge last night. They had a number of "teeth" opened up out of the bridge on either side. Anyone know what there purpose is?

Cookie_Monster · 26-02-2010, 09:40

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Originally Posted by CountingCrows

Was walking by bridge last night. They had a number of "teeth" opened up out of the bridge on either side. Anyone know what there purpose is?

did they have a large white brush with them?

**monument** · 26-02-2010, 10:57

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Originally Posted by CountingCrows

Was walking by bridge last night. They had a number of "teeth" opened up out of the bridge on either side. Anyone know what there purpose is?

they block cars from driving on the bridge when it is closed, or about to turn etc

Aran · 06-05-2010, 11:58

I have written to two local politicians regarding NOT having access to the bridge if you are from East Wall....

No joy yet.....

It's really not fair.... there is a fabulous new piece of infrastructure that a whole community is excluded from using.

At the moment many are taking right turns from Guild street illegally which risks 2 penalty points and an 80 Euro fine...

Surely there must be somebody out there who can sort this out!!!

Does anybody have access to the right person in DCC???

markpb · 06-05-2010, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Aran

I have written to two local politicians regarding NOT having access to the bridge if you are from East Wall.... [...] Does anybody have access to the right person in DCC???

Did you contact TDs or councilors?

If I remember correctly, the EIS and planning permission (from ABP) for the bridge stipulated the turning restrictions so it's not up to DCC to overturn them.

Aran · 06-05-2010, 12:10

Claire O'Regan (Labour cllr.) - who in fairness tried to be very helpful but could not make any changes

And a chap called Pascal who I know very little about but caught one of his leaflet distributors last night outside my house and gave a written note to pass on.

AlekSmart · 06-05-2010, 12:28

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I have written to two local politicians regarding NOT having access to the bridge if you are from East Wall....

No joy yet.....

It's really not fair.... there is a fabulous new piece of infrastructure that a whole community is excluded from using.

Aran,It is sadly symptomatic of where this country stands that you and many others have to resort to posts such as this.

It now appears that this structure was primarily intended as a Civic Artistic Feature rather than a piece of functional traffic infrastructure.

I`m uncertain as to whether EU assistance was availed of for the project but if so,perhaps some wider pressure could be applied to whomever is in actual control of the thing to make it available for its intended traffic purposes.

If not then the best option would appear to be setting the bridge to permanently open which would at least remove the entrapment feature whereby motorists are lured into a law-breaking situation.

As Markpb points out....

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If I remember correctly, the EIS and planning permission (from ABP) for the bridge stipulated the turning restrictions so it's not up to DCC to overturn them.

.....we are already in classic Irish Administrative mode of having a plethora of rersponsible agencies with nobody actually having any functional control at all.........a bit like the Country as a whole really...

Son of Stupido · 06-05-2010, 12:34

Its to do with the eastlink. no-one would use it if they could turn onto the new bridge and cross south. It is crazy but there must have been some lobbying from NTR or whoever owns the bloody thing.

I am getting good at U turns on Sherrif street!

Aran · 06-05-2010, 13:11

I'm getting good at those Sherrif Street U turns too....

Not ideal is it???

Has there been yet another brown envelope so that people continue to be forced into using the Toll bridge??

Maybe we should ask the Gards if they agree with the madness and would turn a blind eye to people using the bridge with illegal turns??

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02-02-2010, 15:25	#436
gurramok Subscriber Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the Port Tunnel M1 exit, Dubland, Irish Isles Posts: 13,512 Adverts \| Friends	And yesterday, it took 20minutes to travel from the Maldron Hotel on Cardiff Lane to all the way up to the Five Lamps via Seville Place. Each light was red, thats just ridiculous. It would be quicker to go the old way down Amiens st, that defeats the purpose of the new bridge due to bad lights synchronisation. Coming back southbound, its a disaster more so on Macken st. Its not looking good at all to make the bridge useful.

24-02-2010, 17:15	#440
gurramok Subscriber Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the Port Tunnel M1 exit, Dubland, Irish Isles Posts: 13,512 Adverts \| Friends	This morning like the previous mornings, the right turn from Pearse st onto Macken st was a nightmare. The filter light only lasts for maybe at most 10 seconds hence about 20 cars were backed up to over the bridge blocking city bound traffic and forcing them onto the bus lane. I gave up this morning turning right(there were others who gave up too) and decided to go the old route down Pearse st and over up by Gardiner st. It was actually slightly quicker than using the new bridge. Also the filter light in the evenings for right turning traffic from Guild st onto the North quays was a similar nightmare in that I had seen cars and vans doing U-turns and heading back westwards towards the city in order to get to the south quays westbound. So on the traffic lights front including what I highlighted in my previous post on the journey to the Five Lamps, the bridge is fast losing its purpose at alleviating city bound traffic imho.

24-02-2010, 17:29	#441
expectationlost Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,579 Adverts \| Friends	beckett-bridge-shut-for-safety-check http://www.herald.ie/national-news/c...s-2076984.html

26-02-2010, 09:12	#442
CountingCrows Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In A Perfect Blue Building Posts: 1,276 Adverts \| Friends	Was walking by bridge last night. They had a number of "teeth" opened up out of the bridge on either side. Anyone know what there purpose is?

06-05-2010, 11:58	#445
Aran Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 26 Adverts \| Friends	I have written to two local politicians regarding NOT having access to the bridge if you are from East Wall.... No joy yet..... It's really not fair.... there is a fabulous new piece of infrastructure that a whole community is excluded from using. At the moment many are taking right turns from Guild street illegally which risks 2 penalty points and an 80 Euro fine... Surely there must be somebody out there who can sort this out!!! Does anybody have access to the right person in DCC???

06-05-2010, 12:10	#447
Aran Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 26 Adverts \| Friends	Claire O'Regan (Labour cllr.) - who in fairness tried to be very helpful but could not make any changes And a chap called Pascal who I know very little about but caught one of his leaflet distributors last night outside my house and gave a written note to pass on.

06-05-2010, 12:34	#449
Son of Stupido Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 116 Adverts \| Friends	Its to do with the eastlink. no-one would use it if they could turn onto the new bridge and cross south. It is crazy but there must have been some lobbying from NTR or whoever owns the bloody thing. I am getting good at U turns on Sherrif street!

06-05-2010, 13:11	#450
Aran Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 26 Adverts \| Friends	I'm getting good at those Sherrif Street U turns too.... Not ideal is it??? Has there been yet another brown envelope so that people continue to be forced into using the Toll bridge?? Maybe we should ask the Gards if they agree with the madness and would turn a blind eye to people using the bridge with illegal turns??