[Dan133269]

Are you not worried about using botox for excessive sweating? are there any negative effects from it? seems a bit extreme tbh, paralysing a muscle just to stop sweating. I sweat profusely but don't think I would consider that.

[tbh]

Originally Posted by Dan133269

Are you not worried about using botox for excessive sweating? are there any negative effects from it? seems a bit extreme tbh, paralysing a muscle just to stop sweating. I sweat profusely but don't think I would consider that.

Botox doesn't paralyze the muscle, it's an inhibitor for the chemical that causes sweat to be produced.

[Sugarlumps]

Anhydrol Forte works 100%, I don't use it like a normal roll on as you only need to dab it on once lightly. It may sting at the begining if you lather it on harshly. A bottle will last you a long time (6 months - year), I only use it every other day.

[Martyn1989]

Got this stuff called R32 today, a homeopathic remedy that the woman said is very very good, gotta take 15 drops in a mouthfull of water 6 times daily for the next 3-4 days.
I deicided to give it a go as itll work for the whole body, not just the underarms. She also said it will regulate the glands involved better?
Anyone tried this stuff?

Ill post results in a couple of days

[The_Kew_Tour]

Originally Posted by Martyn1989

Got this stuff called R32 today, a homeopathic remedy that the woman said is very very good, gotta take 15 drops in a mouthfull of water 6 times daily for the next 3-4 days.
I deicided to give it a go as itll work for the whole body, not just the underarms. She also said it will regulate the glands involved better?
Anyone tried this stuff?

Ill post results in a couple of days

Never heard of it is it expensive?

[Dave!]

Originally Posted by Martyn1989

Got this stuff called R32 today, a homeopathic remedy that the woman said is very very good, gotta take 15 drops in a mouthfull of water 6 times daily for the next 3-4 days.
I deicided to give it a go as itll work for the whole body, not just the underarms. She also said it will regulate the glands involved better?
Anyone tried this stuff?

Ill post results in a couple of days

homeopathic = bullshti

[MadsL]

a homeopathic remedy

is it expensive?

Hmm, what do you think

Well it is homopathetic (by which I mean overpriced snake oil with high 'dilutions' - water or alcohol basically with some 'active' ingredient waved over it)

As to what is in it;
Active ingredients:Belladonna 12X, So, Deadly Nightshade, a traditional cure (and poison) for high fever. Here in a dilution significantly less than the max permissible US concentration of arsenic in drinking water. (ratio of 10−12 compared to 10 -8)

Kali carbonicum 6X, or Potassium Carbonate (potash) - it's a good fertilizer, you can leaven bread with it, but I'm not sure what it does for you in this.

Nitricum acidum 12X, yep you guessed it Nitric Acid. Traditional cure for Syphillis. Again in a concentration you could bathe your eyes in.

Pilocarpus 4X, a plant - the only medical reference for which is to stimulate saliva production. Here diluted 1:10000. http://www.agingeye.net/dryeyes/oral.php

Salvia officinalis 30X, At last something useful apparantly - Sage!! Traditionally used a a cure for excessive sweating! Only problem is here is that at 30X dilution there is less than 60% probability that there is a molecule of this in this particular bottle.

Sambuccus nigra 4X, Elderberry!! Yum, mildly poisonous. Again diluted 1:10000

Sanguinaria canadensis 6X, Bloodroot, a type of magnolia. Nasty stuff - probably not at this dilution though.

Bloodroot extracts are toxic to animal cells Sanguinarine kills animal cells by blocking the action of Na+/K+-ATPase transmembrane proteins. As a result, applying bloodroot to the skin may destroy tissue and lead to the formation of a large scab, called an eschar. Bloodroot and its extracts are thus considered escharotic.

In spite of supposed curative properties and historical use by Native Americans as an emetic, internal use is inadvisable. Although applying escharotic agents, including bloodroot, to the skin is sometimes suggested as a home treatment for skin cancer, these attempts can be severely disfiguring.[5] Salves derived from bloodroot cannot be relied on to remove an entire malignant tumor. Microscopic tumor deposits may remain after visible tumor tissue is burned away, and case reports have shown that in such instances tumor has recurred and/or metastasized.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodroot

Sepia 30X, Cuttlefish (ink?) Not veggie then this. Unless there is no molecule in the bottle. It's easily better than 50% odds you are getting, so it may or may not be veggie depending on the batch. I think we should be told

Veratrum album 12X False Helleborine - nasty plant. The root is very poisonous, with a paralyzing effect on the nervous system[1]. In two cases of fatal poisoning from eating the seeds, the toxins veratridine and cevadine were present in the blood at 0.17–0.40 nanograms/milliliter and 0.32–0.48 nanograms/milliliter, respectively. In 1983 sneezing powders produced from the herb in West Germany were reported to have caused severe intoxications in Scandinavia.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veratrum_album#Uses

Probably best taken diluted

Inactive ingredients: 36 vol.-% alcohol, distilled water.

About the same as Gin then. I found this product online at $22 per 50ml - so that bottle of Gin works out at $330 a bottle.

I'm in the wrong business. but as AC/DC said "there ought to be a law"

[Martyn1989]

Originally Posted by The_Kew_Tour

Never heard of it is it expensive?

I dont know, It was picked up for me, Ill find out, Im going to try it out if it works well and good, if it dosnt, it was worth a shot

[Martyn1989]

Originally Posted by MadsL

Hmm, what do you think

Well it is homopathetic (by which I mean overpriced snake oil with high 'dilutions' - water or alcohol basically with some 'active' ingredient waved over it)

As to what is in it;
Active ingredients:Belladonna 12X, So, Deadly Nightshade, a traditional cure (and poison) for high fever. Here in a dilution significantly less than the max permissible US concentration of arsenic in drinking water. (ratio of 10−12 compared to 10 -8)

Kali carbonicum 6X, or Potassium Carbonate (potash) - it's a good fertilizer, you can leaven bread with it, but I'm not sure what it does for you in this.

Nitricum acidum 12X, yep you guessed it Nitric Acid. Traditional cure for Syphillis. Again in a concentration you could bathe your eyes in.

Pilocarpus 4X, a plant - the only medical reference for which is to stimulate saliva production. Here diluted 1:10000. http://www.agingeye.net/dryeyes/oral.php

Salvia officinalis 30X, At last something useful apparantly - Sage!! Traditionally used a a cure for excessive sweating! Only problem is here is that at 30X dilution there is less than 60% probability that there is a molecule of this in this particular bottle.

Sambuccus nigra 4X, Elderberry!! Yum, mildly poisonous. Again diluted 1:10000

Sanguinaria canadensis 6X, Bloodroot, a type of magnolia. Nasty stuff - probably not at this dilution though.

Bloodroot extracts are toxic to animal cells Sanguinarine kills animal cells by blocking the action of Na+/K+-ATPase transmembrane proteins. As a result, applying bloodroot to the skin may destroy tissue and lead to the formation of a large scab, called an eschar. Bloodroot and its extracts are thus considered escharotic.

In spite of supposed curative properties and historical use by Native Americans as an emetic, internal use is inadvisable. Although applying escharotic agents, including bloodroot, to the skin is sometimes suggested as a home treatment for skin cancer, these attempts can be severely disfiguring.[5] Salves derived from bloodroot cannot be relied on to remove an entire malignant tumor. Microscopic tumor deposits may remain after visible tumor tissue is burned away, and case reports have shown that in such instances tumor has recurred and/or metastasized.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodroot

Sepia 30X, Cuttlefish (ink?) Not veggie then this. Unless there is no molecule in the bottle. It's easily better than 50% odds you are getting, so it may or may not be veggie depending on the batch. I think we should be told

Veratrum album 12X False Helleborine - nasty plant. The root is very poisonous, with a paralyzing effect on the nervous system[1]. In two cases of fatal poisoning from eating the seeds, the toxins veratridine and cevadine were present in the blood at 0.17–0.40 nanograms/milliliter and 0.32–0.48 nanograms/milliliter, respectively. In 1983 sneezing powders produced from the herb in West Germany were reported to have caused severe intoxications in Scandinavia.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veratrum_album#Uses

Probably best taken diluted

Inactive ingredients: 36 vol.-% alcohol, distilled water.

About the same as Gin then. I found this product online at $22 per 50ml - so that bottle of Gin works out at $330 a bottle.

I'm in the wrong business. but as AC/DC said "there ought to be a law"

I happen to love all of those things, Ive ordered 3 more bottles, dont want to run out!

[MadsL]

At some of those dose levels you’d have to buy a hell of a lot more than that and take them all to assure yourself you’d get one molecule of active ingredient.

A 30X dilution means that the original substance has been diluted 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times. Assuming that a cubic centimeter of water contains 15 drops, this number is greater than the number of drops of water that would fill a container more than 50 times the size of the Earth. Imagine placing a drop of red dye into such a container so that it disperses evenly. Homeopathy's "law of infinitesimals" is the equivalent of saying that any drop of water subsequently removed from that container will possess an essence of redness. Robert L. Park, Ph.D., a prominent physicist who is executive director of The American Physical Society, has noted that since the least amount of a substance in a solution is one molecule, a 30C solution would have to have at least one molecule of the original substance dissolved in a minimum of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of water. This would require a container more than 30,000,000,000 times the size of the Earth.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...ics/homeo.html

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by MadsL

Hmm, what do you think

Well it is homopathetic (by which I mean overpriced snake oil with high 'dilutions' - water or alcohol basically with some 'active' ingredient waved over it)

As to what is in it;
Active ingredients:Belladonna 12X, So, Deadly Nightshade, a traditional cure (and poison) for high fever. Here in a dilution significantly less than the max permissible US concentration of arsenic in drinking water. (ratio of 10−12 compared to 10 -8)

Kali carbonicum 6X, or Potassium Carbonate (potash) - it's a good fertilizer, you can leaven bread with it, but I'm not sure what it does for you in this.

Nitricum acidum 12X, yep you guessed it Nitric Acid. Traditional cure for Syphillis. Again in a concentration you could bathe your eyes in.

Pilocarpus 4X, a plant - the only medical reference for which is to stimulate saliva production. Here diluted 1:10000. http://www.agingeye.net/dryeyes/oral.php

Salvia officinalis 30X, At last something useful apparantly - Sage!! Traditionally used a a cure for excessive sweating! Only problem is here is that at 30X dilution there is less than 60% probability that there is a molecule of this in this particular bottle.

Sambuccus nigra 4X, Elderberry!! Yum, mildly poisonous. Again diluted 1:10000

Sanguinaria canadensis 6X, Bloodroot, a type of magnolia. Nasty stuff - probably not at this dilution though.

Bloodroot extracts are toxic to animal cells Sanguinarine kills animal cells by blocking the action of Na+/K+-ATPase transmembrane proteins. As a result, applying bloodroot to the skin may destroy tissue and lead to the formation of a large scab, called an eschar. Bloodroot and its extracts are thus considered escharotic.

In spite of supposed curative properties and historical use by Native Americans as an emetic, internal use is inadvisable. Although applying escharotic agents, including bloodroot, to the skin is sometimes suggested as a home treatment for skin cancer, these attempts can be severely disfiguring.[5] Salves derived from bloodroot cannot be relied on to remove an entire malignant tumor. Microscopic tumor deposits may remain after visible tumor tissue is burned away, and case reports have shown that in such instances tumor has recurred and/or metastasized.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodroot

Sepia 30X, Cuttlefish (ink?) Not veggie then this. Unless there is no molecule in the bottle. It's easily better than 50% odds you are getting, so it may or may not be veggie depending on the batch. I think we should be told

Veratrum album 12X False Helleborine - nasty plant. The root is very poisonous, with a paralyzing effect on the nervous system[1]. In two cases of fatal poisoning from eating the seeds, the toxins veratridine and cevadine were present in the blood at 0.17–0.40 nanograms/milliliter and 0.32–0.48 nanograms/milliliter, respectively. In 1983 sneezing powders produced from the herb in West Germany were reported to have caused severe intoxications in Scandinavia.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veratrum_album#Uses

Probably best taken diluted

Inactive ingredients: 36 vol.-% alcohol, distilled water.

About the same as Gin then. I found this product online at $22 per 50ml - so that bottle of Gin works out at $330 a bottle.

I'm in the wrong business. but as AC/DC said "there ought to be a law"

So essentially it's just a bottle of water with a few molecules worth of impurities?

Bottled seawater.

[MadsL]

Originally Posted by partyatmygaff

So essentially it's just a bottle of water with a few molecules worth of impurities?

No, it's worse than that. It's a bottle of alcohol/water with some molecules if you are lucky. It does contain the 'vibrations' of the active ingrediants though. Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843), the father of homeopathetic 'medicine' believed that the vigorous shaking or pulverizing with each step of dilution leaves behind a "spirit-like" essence—"no longer perceptible to the senses"—which cures by reviving the body's "vital force." Modern proponents assert that even when the last molecule is gone, a "memory" of the substance is retained.

So it is clear that you shouldn't drink tap water, as it contains "spirit-like" essences, who knows what they do....

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by MadsL

No, it's worse than that. It's a bottle of alcohol/water with some molecules if you are lucky. It does contain the 'vibrations' of the active ingrediants though. Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843), the father of homeopathetic 'medicine' believed that the vigorous shaking or pulverizing with each step of dilution leaves behind a "spirit-like" essence—"no longer perceptible to the senses"—which cures by reviving the body's "vital force." Modern proponents assert that even when the last molecule is gone, a "memory" of the substance is retained.

So it is clear that you shouldn't drink tap water, as it contains "spirit-like" essences, who knows what they do....

All the water we drink and use could have once been sewage or chemical waste.

Someone should let those homeopathic chaps know that the water they drink has the "memory and spirit" of faeces and dead plants and animals.

[MadsL]

It's worse than that, it may have passed through Brian Cowen's liver.

[partyatmygaff]

Originally Posted by MadsL

It's worse than that, it may have passed through Brian Cowen's liver.

Free beer!

According to homeopathy... All water can poison you, heal you and intoxicate you at the same time.