Is it time the polish went home

[Dragous]

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

[amacachi]

[niallsparky]

Ireland has signed up to EU law in relation to the free movement of labour. Polish people have every right to remain here if they wish as Irish people are free to live, work and draw dole in other EU countries. Is it not unfair to show our foreign nationals the door when it is our construction companies who encouraged them to come here in the first place due to a labour shortage?

[seanybiker]

Since a load of em worked in the building trade I would count that as contributing to the economy. Its not their fault we have a government who couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery.
If we send them back why dont we take back all the Irish all over the world who are living in places illegally. While we are at it sure we may aswell take back all the
Descendants of Irish people who legged it during the famine.

[eoin5]

As far as I can see they are going home. We used to get a fair few Polish lads into the shop but lately its a rarity.

[Guillaume]

Originally Posted by Dragous

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

Well, first I do not think it is legally possible to send back foreigners to their country. Legally, maybe, Ireland can restrict its frontiers to new immigrants, especially those from the new European members area. France and Germany did, if i reckon, due to their unemployment.
This concern the polish, but it concerns also Lithuanian, Latvian, Hungarian, etc... Those people, yes, truth enough, contributed to the economy by their work force. But not by their spending or desire to integrate the Irish society on a social way. They are here for the money.

[Lady Lainy]

With the freedom of movement and labour we can't legally boot them out.
From my own personal experience, the Lithuanians and Latvians will spend money here. They will go out, socialise, and integrate into irish society. But it is the polish, who will keep to them selves, form there own little communities. There are a number of polish customers who come into where I work, been coming in for as long as I have been working there, and not a word of english. They are over here yet they wouldnt even learn basic english.

In a perfect world, there should be protection for "failing" countries within the EU. In my eyes Ireland is failing. We were flurishing for years, but now we are on a steep slippery slope. In a perfect world there would be a halt on EU migration to ireland. We can no longer support our selves, how are we supposed to support other countries.

As someone mentioned above, Yes the polish are leaving, Ireland have lost many of our EU grants, which poland are no receiving to help develop infrastructure, schools, industrial estates and kick start busineses. ie....giving grants to encourage companies such as DELL to set up shop over there.

We can not blame the polish or any other nationality for the failings of our govnerment to protect us. Though trust me......I understand the frustration...I had my hours cut recently to less than 10 hours a week because our company closed another store and moved that manager (polish) to our store....which effected everyons hours...

[silverharp]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

But not by their spending or desire to integrate the Irish society on a social way. They are here for the money.

if you plan on sending them home can we vacate the aran islands and relocate all the Irish skangers, they are a much more scary group that wont integrate into Irish society in a social way

[jmayo]

Originally Posted by Dragous

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

Change a few terms in your post and low and behold, we could have an Englishman talking about lazy drunken sponging paddies and sending them back to their spuds in Eire

For someone that doesn't mean to offend anyone you sure do a good job
If every nation adopted this policy of sending those damm foreigners, who contribute nothing, home then how many Irish people would be back here from US, UK, Australia, Germany, etc etc.

[Serenity Now!]

Originally Posted by Dragous

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

Another pogrom afficiando with a short memory, eh?

[jimmmy]

Originally Posted by Dragous

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

You say what many Irish people have said to me in private. The massive influx of them has not beneffited the country. During the boom years they were paid well to build houses for themselves to rent / live in in Ireland, and the Irish people are now left carrying empty houses.

[havana]

How have they not contributed to our economy. They have worked hard and while i'm sure alot of money has been sent home they didn't survive here on air. And those who are now entitled to social welfare are entitled because they meet the habitual residency conditions which means they have contributed to our society for at least a couple of years

[seanybiker]

Originally Posted by jimmmy

You say what many Irish people have said to me in private. The massive influx of them has not beneffited the country. During the boom years they were paid well to build houses for themselves to rent / live in in Ireland, and the Irish people are now left carrying empty houses.

They got paid to build their own houses?? That was nice of us

[professore]

Originally Posted by Dragous

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

If you want to blame someone for Dell then blame the government - however slapping computers together was never going to stay in Ireland with our costs here, most of which are the governments fault. But I'm sure you still drool when that muppet Bertie comes on TV. His policies are what caused this. Cowen is just left holding the baby and is clueless now that it's puking all over him.

A lot of them have already?

They contributed nothing to the economy here? Sure they slept on the street, ate weeds and grass off the side of the road, convinced their bosses to pay no tax or prsi for them, so they spent zero in this country.

By the way that dole plan is what lots of Irish have been doing for years. The only way to do this is to pull out of the EU - then our currency will collapse completely along with all our banks, the remaining multinationals will pull out, our exports to the EU will be taxed and we will be eating grass and weeds off the side of the road for real and begging the UK for help again.

[professore]

Originally Posted by jimmmy

You say what many Irish people have said to me in private. The massive influx of them has not beneffited the country. During the boom years they were paid well to build houses for themselves to rent / live in in Ireland, and the Irish people are now left carrying empty houses.

And who's fault is that ????? Us - we were stupid enough to build the houses. I'm sure when the builders were earning 50K + a year they weren't complaining. This whole "Polish ruined the country" thing is so stupid. WE DID THIS OURSELVES.