[Jaysoose]

Originally Posted by ch750536

Thats why I apologised.

Called them yet?

Thanks,

Nope, and not gonna either.

[drunk_monk]

Originally Posted by ch750536

Posted this elsewhere. Didn't know about this forum...

Nursery : €45 for 5 days 4 hours.

Tax : Joint income of €50,000

Council Tax : €0

Better paid job. (30% better)

child benefit : double than in the UK.

Personally, I am €15,000 a year better off in Ireland

Not sure if this works, but My Life, Ire vs UK

They probably don't have taxes on things where as we do. For example do they have to pay DIRT on the savings? Or credit card tax? They do not pay VRT on cars making them much cheaper than here. Almost anything in the high street there is way cheaper than here. At the end of the day it swings in round-a-bouts so your argument is pointless.

[ch750536]

Originally Posted by drunk_monk

They probably don't have taxes on things where as we do. For example do they have to pay DIRT on the savings? Or credit card tax? They do not pay VRT on cars making them much cheaper than here. Almost anything in the high street there is way cheaper than here. At the end of the day it swings in round-a-bouts so your argument is pointless.

My whole point is that it is swings & roundabouts.

The UK taxes heavily at source (PAYE) and light at retail.
Ireland taxes light at source and heavy at retail.#

Just use any online PAYE calculator to confirm this, especially if married.

Truth is in the UK you would have less money to spend on stuff because of all the taxes you pay.

[drunk_monk]

Yes I agree with you that they pay more PAYE taxes but what about health care. How much do you pay for health care for you and your family here? How much are you paying for your doctors visits each year? It's all free in the UK. What about trips to the dentists, in the UK some treatments are up to 50% cheaper than here. How much are you paying to eat out? How much are you paying for a pint? In wetherspoons it costs under two pounds for a pint and you can get a full fry for £3.49 (at least it was last time I was there). The list goes on and on and on.

My point is you have picked 5 things that are cheaper or better than that of the UK but have completely disregarded all other areas. So the point you made about being 1000's of euros better of here than if you lived in the UK is completely and utterly incorrect.

[ch750536]

Its as simple as this.

I moved to Ireland 4 years ago, yet continued to work for my UK employer. I get paid in Sterling.

My employer has asked me to move back to the UK and offered some reward for doing this.

In order to fully evaluate things I built a model of life for my family in both countries with regard to the top 10 costs.

I did this in some detail, going down to energy used by KwH and mileage, healthcare etc etc.

At the end of all this, and adjusting for todays currency rates I have a net figure of €17,743 in favour of :-

Quitting my UK based job and getting a similar one in Ireland (I have an offer)
Over
Moving back to the UK.

That is taking into account the kids, buying a house of same mortgage repayment (unlikely), cars, tax, PAYE, etc etc, all the things for day to day living.

Now I have spent time on this and been thorough, which means I have earnt the right to be bold and stand by my number and statements about the bargain of living in Ireland.

Will even 1 person, who is so quick to look at just 1 aspect of life in Ireland (shopping) care to look at the tax issue, for example, then report back here with their own findings.

It seems there are too many people who are only too happy to bitch about Ireland without looking at the facts, without considering the bigger picture.

[ch750536]

Originally Posted by drunk_monk

Yes I agree with you that they pay more PAYE taxes but what about health care. ...

When that difference is €18000* per year it would take a lot of bargains up north to compensate for it.

In the last 3 years I have spent less than €3k on healthcare.

For the sake of analysis only (like for like) I included a package from Hibernian (Silver) to give a suitable cost, which came to €2426.




*To be fair I changed to todays exchange rate but did not recalculate the tax at the new rate, this would make this figure a little wrong.

[zillmere]

[quote=ch750536;58326199]Its as simple as this.



In order to fully evaluate things I built a model of life for my family in both countries with regard to the top 10 costs.

I did this in some detail, going down to energy used by KwH and mileage, healthcare etc etc.

At the end of all this, and adjusting for todays currency rates I have a net figure of €17,743 in favour of :-

[quote]

Did you factor in the cost of your time to carry out this test?

[Jaysoose]

Originally Posted by ch750536

Its as simple as this.

At the end of all this, and adjusting for todays currency rates I have a net figure of €17,743 in favour of :-

Personally, I am €15,000 a year better off in Ireland

It seems there are too many people who are only too happy to bitch about Ireland without looking at the facts, without considering the bigger picture.

You Initally were 15000 better off!!! now its €17743.... or did your "in depth" study incur administration costs of €2743?

[ch750536]

Originally Posted by Jaysoose

You Initally were 15000 better off!!! now its €17743.... or did your "in depth" study incur administration costs of €2743?

Jaysooose

Either learn to read or stop trolling.

Link from OP

Since doing the original spreadsheet (not even sure that you can see it to be honest) the exchange rates have changed a lot.

This adversely effects the numbers.

Now, please stop trolling and have a good xmas.

[ch750536]

Originally Posted by zillmere

Did you factor in the cost of your time to carry out this test?

No, I figured making a good decision rather than a bad one would compensate me enough.

[ejmaztec]

Originally Posted by ch750536

When that difference is €18000* per year it would take a lot of bargains up north to compensate for it.

In the last 3 years I have spent less than €3k on healthcare.

For the sake of analysis only (like for like) I included a package from Hibernian (Silver) to give a suitable cost, which came to €2426.




*To be fair I changed to todays exchange rate but did not recalculate the tax at the new rate, this would make this figure a little wrong.

I'm puzzled that your sig tells us not to give any money to the "Brits", but that you have a UK employer.

[ch750536]

Originally Posted by ejmaztec

I'm puzzled that your sig tells us not to give any money to the "Brits", but that you have a UK employer.

Why does that puzzle you? I'm taking money off them!

<snip> - Have to be careful what I say. Employers look at the internet too.

[drunk_monk]

Well fair play to you for doing the figures. I do in fact agree we are a little better off here (I'm actually English). I just don't agree with the amount you say. It's also a better quality of life here as well

Still good luck with your decision and have a nice Christmas.

[ejmaztec]

Originally Posted by ch750536

Why does that puzzle you? I'm taking money off them!

I hope that they are not easily offended were they to have too much time on their hands and scour the internet.

[ch750536]

Originally Posted by ejmaztec

I hope that they are not easily offended were they to have too much time on their hands and scour the internet.

I'm not stealing it, I earnt all of it.