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23-11-2008, 19:09   #16
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I have an early '06 Comfortline 1.9 Tdi Passta of the new model. The only call back In had was for the cover of the wiper motor.

The fuel pump and turbo went and the dealership stated they were recogised faults in late '05 - early '06 models. I did here others complain about either the clutch or the gear box but can't remember which it was.

Runnig well since and good, spacious and comfortable car.
So to re-cap.....
turbo, fuel pump and wiper motor.......
Sums them up really.
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This is exactly the problem with the electric handbrake. They ditched a perfectly good simple system in favour of something more complicated and less effectual.

I don't think it is a deal breaker though.
Interesting insurance question that just occured to me though...

Say you're on that aforementioned hill and inadvertently roll back into the guy behind you as a result of this "feature" - would you be liable or could you claim a design flaw or something?
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23-11-2008, 19:22   #18
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Interesting insurance question that just occured to me though...

Say you're on that aforementioned hill and inadvertently roll back into the guy behind you as a result of this "feature" - would you be liable or could you claim a design flaw or something?
There is something wrong with your brake system if it is letting the car back on take off.
We have had 3 of them now in the extended family and not a hint of that. If you have your belt on thereby allowing the auto release, it should not go backwards at all. If fact I read that the system is so intelligent that it senses the cooling of the brake discs and can automatically tighten the brake some more to take up the slack due to the shrinkage of the cooling discs when parked.
The only way it is possible to go backwards (with a properly functioning system) is if you stall or dip the clutch again after it has released and in these cases, you simply do what you would do in any other car... Apply the footbrake and start again.
My car also has an equivalent system (Audi) and if it were to be letting the car roll backwards on hill starts, I would be back to dealer fairly fast.
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Hi,

I've a 06 comfortline 1.9. Lovely car, if a little underpowered (105 bhp). Pretty easy on diesel, av 47 mpg. Faults so far have been the aforementioned fuel pump, the switch on the parking brake was very intermittent and finally the gearbox turned a little grabby around 27k miles, apparently the gear oil wasn't the correct grade!??
All were covered under the VW warranty.
The only thing I'd fault is the lack of mp3 or ipod connectivity with the standard head unit.
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There is something wrong with your brake system if it is letting the car back on take off.
We have had 3 of them now in the extended family and not a hint of that. If you have your belt on thereby allowing the auto release, it should not go backwards at all. If fact I read that the system is so intelligent that it senses the cooling of the brake discs and can automatically tighten the brake some more to take up the slack due to the shrinkage of the cooling discs when parked.
The only way it is possible to go backwards (with a properly functioning system) is if you stall or dip the clutch again after it has released and in these cases, you simply do what you would do in any other car... Apply the footbrake and start again.
My car also has an equivalent system (Audi) and if it were to be letting the car roll backwards on hill starts, I would be back to dealer fairly fast.
Didn't realise that. I was on a UK VW forum reading up on the potential problems and issues people have had, and the "auto hold" being jerky and rolling back a bit and figured (as maidhc said) that it was a known issue that VW aren't acknowledging as such. As I mentioned earlier, it's an automatic-DSG box so there isn't much driver interaction involved save for step on the accelerator, the brake disengages, and the car moves off.. or back a bit if on an incline.

My older (also auto) 02 Passat with a regular handbrake didn't do it and if anything, had more of a pull in creep/drive mode than the new one.

I'll be calling the dealer in the morning though!
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23-11-2008, 19:41   #21
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Thanks all for your comments.
I think I would better go for a newer model as there were couple of problems with new features introduced this car.
I found I could get an 05 new model 105 bhp car with low mileage for around 14k or less. If going for a newer model, then I must go with the 08 one as it is having less motor tax.
I am also interested in an 05 avensis 1.6
How do you compare this with an 05 1.9 passat (105) ?
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This should give you some more info and other reviews

http://www.whatcar.co.uk/used-car-summary.aspx?rt=2513
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Yes - early models were plagued with problems with one major one being the electronic parking brake.

If that doesn't bother you they are a nice, well finished car I suppose. That 1.9 TDI 'pump duse' engine is way behind the times though as regard to refinement and technology. It dates back a good 16 years at least and I simply cannot recommend it.
You obviously havent a clue what your talking about. The Pumpe deuse engine is one of the best, torquiest, economical units I have ever seen and ive been working on them for years.....
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You obviously havent a clue what your talking about. The Pumpe deuse engine is one of the best, torquiest, economical units I have ever seen and ive been working on them for years.....
When compared to earlier diesel engines yes but when looking at it in comparison to more up to date stuff, it doesnt stack up well in relation to noise and general refinement. In 105bhp format, its a poor engine in the new passat and interestingly, appeared to suit the old model passat much better. I assume it must have been a lighter car. Also in Octavia(I assume its the same engine) much quicker than in the new passat.
Compare this engine to what Honda, BMW etc are producing and its old hat
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Didn't realise that. I was on a UK VW forum reading up on the potential problems and issues people have had, and the "auto hold" being jerky and rolling back a bit and figured (as maidhc said) that it was a known issue that VW aren't acknowledging as such. As I mentioned earlier, it's an automatic-DSG box so there isn't much driver interaction involved save for step on the accelerator, the brake disengages, and the car moves off.. or back a bit if on an incline.

My older (also auto) 02 Passat with a regular handbrake didn't do it and if anything, had more of a pull in creep/drive mode than the new one.

I'll be calling the dealer in the morning though!
Ive only experience of cars without the auto hill hold function. Does your car go back if you dont use the hill hold function and manually activate the handbrake? The handbrake should still self release.
Either way, its madness if you cannot stop your car going backwards on takeoff. THat wouldnt be much of a technical advance.
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Ive only experience of cars without the auto hill hold function. Does your car go back if you dont use the hill hold function and manually activate the handbrake? The handbrake should still self release.
Either way, its madness if you cannot stop your car going backwards on takeoff. THat wouldnt be much of a technical advance.
Yes the only way to work around the problem is to activate Auto Hold when stopped. Then when you move off the car will not roll back.. otherwise it will.
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23-11-2008, 22:20   #27
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OP my uncle is on his second Passat.

He had a 07 1.6 FSi that broke his heart:
faulty electronic brake,
phantom warning lights on the dash resulting in the ECU having a software upgrade,
wiper motor failure,

He bought another one though, a 08 1.4 TSi and so far it hasn't had any issues.
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06 model

had the 06 1.6 model parking brake was poor at hill starts it was slow to disengage and the radio was replaced a number of times due to cd's clogging the intake. But happily i have the 08 1.4tsI model unreal car steering gearbox and park brake fixed up lovely gr8 car highly recommend it.
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Ive only experience of cars without the auto hill hold function. Does your car go back if you dont use the hill hold function and manually activate the handbrake? The handbrake should still self release.
Either way, its madness if you cannot stop your car going backwards on takeoff. THat wouldnt be much of a technical advance.
Humm.. on the 06 one I drive, once you touch the accelerator the brake releases... most of the time. Sometimes it doesn't.
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The last time I checked they were number 1 on the AA breakdown list, I wouldn't buy a modern VW tbh they're nothing but trouble.
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