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21-11-2008, 09:05   #1
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200nl: Sould I be raising more somewhere?

Villan is a super tight reg. He plays 14/12/5 over 500 hands. CB = 53%, WTSD = 37%, W$SD = 55%, W$WSF = 46. I've been around 21/18/3 and villan would have no reason to view me as over aggro or spewy.

Villan is 14/12/5 over 400 hands. CB 53%, wtsd 37%, WSD 55%, wwsf 46

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG 1983jb ($200.00)
CO PARKONTEL ($199.00)
BTN Meija ($282.50)
SB Hero ($571.40)
BB Espigon ($306.75)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is SB
1 fold, PARKONTEL raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($16, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, PARKONTEL raises to $36, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($88, 2 players)
Hero checks, PARKONTEL checks

River: ($88, 2 players)
Hero checks, PARKONTEL bets $30, Hero calls $30
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21-11-2008, 09:14   #2
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Now that we are here in this way i am raising the river 100% of the time to that bet.

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21-11-2008, 13:28   #3
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Definitely raise river. Why did you donk bet the flop if you're not going to 3 bet it?
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21-11-2008, 15:56   #4
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wow i have him way looser over 1k hands. 19/15/3

I dont rate him mucha and 3 bet get in in PF.

As played deffo raise for value.
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21-11-2008, 16:26   #5
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I would raise-raise-raise this hand out of sight

Why slowplay preflop, then lead this flop?
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21-11-2008, 16:59   #6
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wow i have him way looser over 1k hands. 19/15/3

I dont rate him mucha and 3 bet get in in PF.

As played deffo raise for value.
I think most of my hands on him are from about 3 months ago and he may have loosened up since. I really butchered this hand. To be honest I am not really sure what I was at when this hand happened.

Zuutroy said as well that he was about 20/16 as well. Had I have known this I would obv have been 3b preflop and getting it in but my stats are badly skewed.

I'm not to sure why I donked the flop now, I may have though I was the PFR or something dumb like that. Usually when I donk the flop its either to take the pot down there and then or its to 3b and get it in.
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21-11-2008, 18:14   #7
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Perfect spot to check-raise river for value
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21-11-2008, 21:25   #8
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I think I'd do pretty much everything differently, but there's always arguments for doing things in a weird way.

FWIW, I hate calling pf, cos there is definitely value in a 3bet and you'll be oop.

I don't like donking the flop vs this guy given his stats. I'd just c/c actually, and see what happens from there.

As played I think I'd just bet the river myself. C/r here is a bit FPS, considering I would expect him to check behind quite a lot.
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21-11-2008, 23:12   #9
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3 bet flop to 20 or so i agree with TG with c/c flop as he may fire again as played i get as much value from the river. I assume he had an a10/jj sort of hand?
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22-11-2008, 01:45   #10
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I think I'd do pretty much everything differently, but there's always arguments for doing things in a weird way.

FWIW, I hate calling pf, cos there is definitely value in a 3bet and you'll be oop.

I don't like donking the flop vs this guy given his stats. I'd just c/c actually, and see what happens from there.

As played I think I'd just bet the river myself. C/r here is a bit FPS, considering I would expect him to check behind quite a lot.
I was trying to do things weird here, I wrongly thought that he was a super NIT and was probably being overly cautious as I have been running kinda bad and everytime I seem to get AK, QQ etc I seem to run into bigger hands so this was definitely playing on my mind here.

Results wise, villan had 9Ts. Looking back on it, there probably is very little to this hand as jacky says it looks like a T or JJ and he never really has KK, AA after he checks the turn so I missed out on some value by not raising the river.
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