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burgerland · 31-03-2010, 16:25

ive also tried resetting panel by disconnecting power and removing jp1 jumper and reconnecting power but to no avail.

altor · 31-03-2010, 17:41

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Originally Posted by burgerland

i installed an internal bell on my hkc 8/12 alarm panel,but i now have an error code " no rkp comms.." showing on the RKP.i checked the fuses on the control panel, and fuse f2 for auxiliary 12v was blown. i replaced this but still have error code.i tried disconnecting all power for a minute but error code is still showing.any help appreciated!

Hi burgerland,

NO RKP COMMS relates to the data wire from the panel to the keypad. If you have connected the keypad to the panel on a different cable plus defaulted the panel there might be a problem with the software on the panel.
Is the LED on the panel flashing on and off ?
Is this the original keypad that was on the alarm ?

altor · 31-03-2010, 17:42

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Originally Posted by burgerland

ive also tried resetting panel by disconnecting power and removing jp1 jumper and reconnecting power but to no avail.

Is the panel eng locked ?

burgerland · 31-03-2010, 18:27

hi altor,thanks for your reply.i fitted the alarm a few years ago and its was working perfectly.i just decided to fit an internal echo yesterday.its only after i connected the echo,i started having problems.i have disconnected echo now and have everything the way it was before yesterday.just cannot clear the error message from rkp.i simply connected the original rkp up to the panel with a short piece of wire to bypass any wiring problems.it is wired into where it originally was.i would assume the panel isnt eng locked as default, i didnt change any settings here originally.

burgerland · 31-03-2010, 18:30

sorry i forgot to mention is original keypad and led on panel is blinking on/off

Jnealon · 31-03-2010, 18:56

How are you connecting the echo.
When you get the comms error is the red led in the control panel blinking or steady. There's bug with those panels where the software tops running and this error appears

burgerland · 31-03-2010, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Jnealon

How are you connecting the echo.
When you get the comms error is the red led in the control panel blinking or steady. There's bug with those panels where the software tops running and this error appears

i connected the echo to the external bell +- on the panel and to a spare zone tamper.panel led is blinking twice then about two second gap and it blinks twice again,sometimes this patern is broken and not exactly the same,but for the most part its blinking like this.i had the echo working fine when i wired it up at the control panel to test it.iam assuming i had a short when one of the fuses was blown as stated earlier.

altor · 31-03-2010, 21:52

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Originally Posted by burgerland

i connected the echo to the external bell +- on the panel and to a spare zone tamper.panel led is blinking twice then about two second gap and it blinks twice again,sometimes this patern is broken and not exactly the same,but for the most part its blinking like this.i had the echo working fine when i wired it up at the control panel to test it.iam assuming i had a short when one of the fuses was blown as stated earlier.

The internal bell should be connected to the internal bell in the control panel, not the external point. What you did with the tamper on this is grand, but this would not affect the keypad.
When you defaulted the panel with the LK1, did the keypad allow you to do this e.g did default panel come up on the keypad ?

burgerland · 31-03-2010, 22:01

no just the flashing "no rpk comms" stayed flashing,there was no change.the echo would only work on the external bell,not the internal bell which goes to the sabb strobe.

altor · 31-03-2010, 22:17

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Originally Posted by burgerland

no just the flashing "no rpk comms" stayed flashing,there was no change.the echo would only work on the external bell,not the internal bell which goes to the sabb strobe.

You will need an eng to have a look at it for you, it could be either the keypad or panel that is gone faulty. If you say the internal bell would not work maybe its the panel.

burgerland · 31-03-2010, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Jnealon

Conect the ext bell + and - to the sounder + and -. Then connect the int bell - to the flash. Loop the tamper in to one of the zone tampers. There are a few other ways to do it but this will work fine

I used this info to wire up the echo,but it looks like a software issue or else panel or keypad,friend has a few spares so will replace tomorrow to diagnose.

thanks for your help,will keep updated

burgerland · 01-04-2010, 12:51

replaced the panel and it works fine so the panel is faulty.i was wondering before i buy a new panel can the old one be checked to see if the software is ok or is it a physical fault on the board-ie blown chip or diode ?

**KoolKid** · 01-04-2010, 13:41

Sorry, Im a bit confused here. You replaced the panel . Did you get a loan of a panel or on sale or return?
If a default of the panel does not solve the problem , you are as well changing it.
If you determined to try rescue it, you could ask HKC to reflash the chip & see if that works.

burgerland · 01-04-2010, 14:53

sorry for the confusion,i got the loan of a panel to diagnose the problem,so im just gonna buy a new one now to be on the safe side.

just to clear up some confusion on my part,can i wire the internal echo +- to the external bell +- on the panel,or as pointed out by Altor, should it be wired to internal bell +- on the panel. i thought the internal bell was for strobe.

sorry for dragging this one!

**KoolKid** · 01-04-2010, 15:06

Wire to the internal along with the strobe.

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31-03-2010, 16:25	#46
burgerland Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10 Adverts \| Friends	ive also tried resetting panel by disconnecting power and removing jp1 jumper and reconnecting power but to no avail.

31-03-2010, 18:27	#49
burgerland Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10 Adverts \| Friends	hi altor,thanks for your reply.i fitted the alarm a few years ago and its was working perfectly.i just decided to fit an internal echo yesterday.its only after i connected the echo,i started having problems.i have disconnected echo now and have everything the way it was before yesterday.just cannot clear the error message from rkp.i simply connected the original rkp up to the panel with a short piece of wire to bypass any wiring problems.it is wired into where it originally was.i would assume the panel isnt eng locked as default, i didnt change any settings here originally.

31-03-2010, 18:30	#50
burgerland Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10 Adverts \| Friends	sorry i forgot to mention is original keypad and led on panel is blinking on/off

31-03-2010, 18:56	#51
Jnealon Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leixlip Posts: 1,597 Adverts \| Friends	How are you connecting the echo. When you get the comms error is the red led in the control panel blinking or steady. There's bug with those panels where the software tops running and this error appears

31-03-2010, 22:01	#54
burgerland Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10 Adverts \| Friends	no just the flashing "no rpk comms" stayed flashing,there was no change.the echo would only work on the external bell,not the internal bell which goes to the sabb strobe.

01-04-2010, 12:51	#57
burgerland Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10 Adverts \| Friends	replaced the panel and it works fine so the panel is faulty.i was wondering before i buy a new panel can the old one be checked to see if the software is ok or is it a physical fault on the board-ie blown chip or diode ?

01-04-2010, 13:41	#58
KoolKid Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 12,002 Adverts \| Friends Mod: HST, GPS, Home security systems, Mobile Application, Plumbing & Heating, Security	Sorry, Im a bit confused here. You replaced the panel . Did you get a loan of a panel or on sale or return? If a default of the panel does not solve the problem , you are as well changing it. If you determined to try rescue it, you could ask HKC to reflash the chip & see if that works.

01-04-2010, 14:53	#59
burgerland Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10 Adverts \| Friends	sorry for the confusion,i got the loan of a panel to diagnose the problem,so im just gonna buy a new one now to be on the safe side. just to clear up some confusion on my part,can i wire the internal echo +- to the external bell +- on the panel,or as pointed out by Altor, should it be wired to internal bell +- on the panel. i thought the internal bell was for strobe. sorry for dragging this one!

01-04-2010, 15:06	#60
KoolKid Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 12,002 Adverts \| Friends Mod: HST, GPS, Home security systems, Mobile Application, Plumbing & Heating, Security	Wire to the internal along with the strobe.