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franksm · 03-03-2008, 15:14

Hi folks

Have a gas-fire that I never use, which is connected to a brick chimney - not sure what lining it has. I would love for the gas fire to be converted to a real, coal fire. From what I have read about flu-lining, it's entirely possible (eg. flue can be "cast in place" in cement).

How much is this likely to cost me ? Just looking for ballpark figures as I know every instance will be different.

House is a three-year-old semi-detatched with brick chimney

Thanks

Frank

ircoha · 03-03-2008, 18:47

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Originally Posted by franksm

Hi folks

Have a gas-fire that I never use, which is connected to a brick chimney - not sure what lining it has. I would love for the gas fire to be converted to a real, coal fire. From what I have read about flu-lining, it's entirely possible (eg. flue can be "cast in place" in cement).

How much is this likely to cost me ? Just looking for ballpark figures as I know every instance will be different.

House is a three-year-old semi-detatched with brick chimney

Thanks

Frank

Are u suggesting that ur chimney has no flue liners as required by the building regs and that it is just concrete.

Can you provide links to the what you have been reading?

franksm · 03-03-2008, 20:12

Ah, no, not suggesting that

What I am really asking is: my house has a gas fire and a brick chimney. Have no idea what the innards are. Can I have it converted to a 'real' fire and what's the typical cost of such a thing ?

franksm · 15-03-2008, 20:55

Any ideas, anyone ?

How easy is it to have a gas-fire ripped out and a 'real' fire installed ?

**muffler** · 16-03-2008, 12:56

You may get more replies in the DIY forum so I will move it there.

**stapeler** · 16-03-2008, 20:14

Is there a chimney pot up top? if it's a clay pot then it's possible that your chimney is already lined for use with solid fuel. You'll need to remove the gas fire to determine if it's lined. Take a picture and post it there and we'd have a better idea.

311 · 16-03-2008, 20:21

Theres a few things to check if its a new build .

First is to make sure ,your fire is not a flueless fire.
Another thing is ,the ceramic firebrick for gas fires won't suit a coal fire.
Also ,I've heard stories about people converting to coal and seeing cracks after around the breast upstairs because of the heat from a coal fire.
Only in new houses though ,older houses are fine with coal fires.

tech head · 22-03-2008, 15:37

i got my chimney relined by a company from galway they installed a stainless steel liner.it only took them a day to do a very professional job.and the best bit is they guantee it for ten years.they are called multiflue and i have no problem in recomending them,(i have no links with the company)

ircoha · 22-03-2008, 23:47

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Originally Posted by tech head

i got my chimney relined by a company from galway they installed a stainless steel liner.it only took them a day to do a very professional job.and the best bit is they guantee it for ten years.they are called multiflue and i have no problem in recomending them,(i have no links with the company)

In fairness tech head to be useful we need to know what kind of fire u will be using in the newly lined chimney and why did u get it lined: were you flueless: I can be a bit clueless.

The OP here wants to go from gas to solid fuel.

I dont believe u can use solid fuel in a ss flue

311 · 22-03-2008, 23:52

I was called to check out houses in the clonee area lately ,some of them had pseudo chimney breast and no stacks outside.

Suprising to see houses without chimneys ,all they had where roof vents.

Flueless gas fire

tech head · 26-03-2008, 15:34

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Originally Posted by ircoha

In fairness tech head to be useful we need to know what kind of fire u will be using in the newly lined chimney and why did u get it lined: were you flueless: I can be a bit clueless.

The OP here wants to go from gas to solid fuel.

I dont believe u can use solid fuel in a ss flue

i have gas fire , i got chimney lined because of cracked liner .
and you actually can use the ss liner on solid fuel.if it doubt contact the experts

franksm · 26-03-2008, 15:46

Thanks guys, I appreciate the comments back and forth. I haven't actually moved into the house yet, was just planning ahead - so will get some pics of the fireplace in due course. All I know for now is that it's a gas fire connected to a real-looking chimney

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franksm Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sometimes Dublin, sometimes Belfast Posts: 1,366 Adverts \| Friends	Flue-lining in a semi-d Hi folks Have a gas-fire that I never use, which is connected to a brick chimney - not sure what lining it has. I would love for the gas fire to be converted to a real, coal fire. From what I have read about flu-lining, it's entirely possible (eg. flue can be "cast in place" in cement). How much is this likely to cost me ? Just looking for ballpark figures as I know every instance will be different. House is a three-year-old semi-detatched with brick chimney Thanks Frank

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03-03-2008, 20:12	#3
franksm Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sometimes Dublin, sometimes Belfast Posts: 1,366 Adverts \| Friends	Ah, no, not suggesting that What I am really asking is: my house has a gas fire and a brick chimney. Have no idea what the innards are. Can I have it converted to a 'real' fire and what's the typical cost of such a thing ?

15-03-2008, 20:55	#4
franksm Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sometimes Dublin, sometimes Belfast Posts: 1,366 Adverts \| Friends	Any ideas, anyone ? How easy is it to have a gas-fire ripped out and a 'real' fire installed ?

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muffler Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Land of the brave. Posts: 28,022 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Armagh, AT Rep, Construction & Planning, Construction & Planning Mods, Donegal, Fermanagh, Leitrim, North, North West, Tyrone	You may get more replies in the DIY forum so I will move it there.

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stapeler Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,063 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Motorhomes & Campervans	Is there a chimney pot up top? if it's a clay pot then it's possible that your chimney is already lined for use with solid fuel. You'll need to remove the gas fire to determine if it's lined. Take a picture and post it there and we'd have a better idea.

16-03-2008, 20:21	#7
311 Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Egzbakistan Posts: 5,301 Adverts \| Friends	Theres a few things to check if its a new build . First is to make sure ,your fire is not a flueless fire. Another thing is ,the ceramic firebrick for gas fires won't suit a coal fire. Also ,I've heard stories about people converting to coal and seeing cracks after around the breast upstairs because of the heat from a coal fire. Only in new houses though ,older houses are fine with coal fires.

22-03-2008, 15:37	#8
tech head Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Adverts \| Friends	i got my chimney relined by a company from galway they installed a stainless steel liner.it only took them a day to do a very professional job.and the best bit is they guantee it for ten years.they are called multiflue and i have no problem in recomending them,(i have no links with the company)

26-03-2008, 15:46	#12
franksm Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sometimes Dublin, sometimes Belfast Posts: 1,366 Adverts \| Friends	Thanks guys, I appreciate the comments back and forth. I haven't actually moved into the house yet, was just planning ahead - so will get some pics of the fireplace in due course. All I know for now is that it's a gas fire connected to a real-looking chimney