[runway16]

Originally Posted by runway16

Pretty amazed to see this thread!

I have never liked the Jervis centre, and anytime I am in there, i've always wanted to get out as quickly as possible. It's just one of those places where I get a bad feeling, especially on the first floor. The area at the top of the first escalator, where you meet the walkway from the Luas stop on abbey street always gives me the creeps....

When I posted the above last night, I was using a work pc which was blocking the YouTube vids. Now on my laptop, I can see them, and is just the area I was talking about......freaky!

[stomprockin]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth_dude

Can you tell us some of what your friends dad has experienced while working there?

Sure, i will ask him and report back.

[Rasmus]

It would be interesting to see the plans of the old hospital, and figure out what was in that area. I wonder is there any way of getting a hold of something like that?

[MrMojoRisin]

Originally Posted by runway16

Pretty amazed to see this thread!

I have never liked the Jervis centre, and anytime I am in there, i've always wanted to get out as quickly as possible. It's just one of those places where I get a bad feeling, especially on the first floor. The area at the top of the first escalator, where you meet the walkway from the Luas stop on abbey street always gives me the creeps....

I would agree with you. I thought the same thing about the place for years but not once (surprisingly enough) did I ever associate it with something paranormal. I always just thought it was because of the way the place was built and designed. I also wasn't aware it had been a hospital or had a wing featuring an asylum. Didn't have a clue until recently.

Anyway, I've always had a very 'heavy', constricted feeling inside the place, from the whole first floor (as you said yourself) over to the jacks area down the corridor. Same thing inside in Boots and Waterstones as well. Basically, as soon as you get up to the first level of the centre after going on the escalator, it hits you, albeit in a subtle, gradual way.

The longer I have to spend time inside in that place, the more jaded I am by the time I go outside again. It's a different story with the likes of Stephen's Green and other centres I've been to though.

Someone mentioned the nearby Marks&Spencer on this thread as well and I've found that place has a similar atmosphere, although it's 'darker'.

Make of it what you will, but those are just my own thoughts on the buildings.

[citycentre]

Originally Posted by MrMojoRisin

I would agree with you. I thought the same thing about the place for years but not once (surprisingly enough) did I ever associate it with something paranormal. I always just thought it was because of the way the place was built and designed. I also wasn't aware it had been a hospital or had a wing featuring an asylum. Didn't have a clue until recently.

Anyway, I've always had a very 'heavy', constricted feeling inside the place, from the whole first floor (as you said yourself) over to the jacks area down the corridor. Same thing inside in Boots and Waterstones as well. Basically, as soon as you get up to the first level of the centre after going on the escalator, it hits you, albeit in a subtle, gradual way.

The longer I have to spend time inside in that place, the more jaded I am by the time I go outside again. It's a different story with the likes of Stephen's Green and other centres I've been to though.

Someone mentioned the nearby Marks&Spencer on this thread as well and I've found that place has a similar atmosphere, although it's 'darker'.

Make of it what you will, but those are just my own thoughts on the buildings.

This just about exactly sums up my feelings on the place as well - I'd add that the upper floor of Waterstones also has a strangely unwelcoming feel, usually I can spend hours browsing bookshops but in there I just feel heavy and uncomfortable and want to get out into fresh air asap.

As an architect I'm well aware of the psychological effects of poorly designed buildings which the Jervis Centre is a prime example of - almost zero natural light and the convoluted circulation being it's worst failings. However I'm also a believer that places can have certain energies imbued by past uses that can either be counteracted or amplified by the current use. That particular area of the centre I always find to be filled with stress, people moving in all directions and getting in each others way due to the badly designed escalators. Maybe its possible that this current negative energy somehow amplifies any that is already within the structure.

All a bit mumbo - jumbo I know but I can think of many different buildings, often built on the site of or into the shell of buildings like hospitals or churches that have similar feels. The best example I can think of is an art gallery and cinema in Dundee where I used to be a student. I worked there as an usher and caretaker and the number of strange noises, fleeting visions in darkened cinemas, inexplicable events like projectors turning on by themselves or equipment breaking was ridiculous. The lift had a nasty habit of freefalling between floors no matter how many times it would be repaired or serviced. There was a warren of escape corridors that had to be checked every evening before closing, an experience that used to reduce people to quivering wrecks, including myself on occasion - just a sense of rising panic the further from "safety" you got.

The weirdest and most unnerving thing was people, including myself, hearing loud wheezing, breathing noises in the basement corridors that rationally we thought must be coming from the air conditioning system but which couldnt be explained. It turned out that the cinemas were built up against the ruins of an old cholera hospital, indeed the architect had actually left fragments of the walls visible in the basement plant room.

Sounds to me like the Jervis Centre and surrounding buildings might have similar echoes from the sites past uses bouncing around the place...

[krd]

Originally Posted by citycentre

As an architect I'm well aware of the psychological effects of poorly designed buildings which the Jervis Centre is a prime example of - almost zero natural light and the convoluted circulation being it's worst failings.

Noise can be a factor too. The sound from large busy crowds can be as loud as jackhammers.

Sub sonics - that's sound below the human hearing range, can be felt - they can be unpleasant because you feel them in your gut.

I can think of a few places where I've been - that if a large truck was passing on the road nearby, the house might vibrate - just enough to be uncomfortable.


What's supposed to be a freaky experience is some sky scrapers, will occasionally release tension in a hum. It will be the resonant frequency of the building, unless there are enough irregularities in the structure to stop a single large resonant frequency.

[runway16]

Originally Posted by MrMojoRisin

Anyway, I've always had a very 'heavy', constricted feeling inside the place, from the whole first floor (as you said yourself) over to the jacks area down the corridor. Same thing inside in Boots and Waterstones as well. Basically, as soon as you get up to the first level of the centre after going on the escalator, it hits you, albeit in a subtle, gradual way.

The longer I have to spend time inside in that place, the more jaded I am by the time I go outside again. It's a different story with the likes of Stephen's Green and other centres I've been to though.

Someone mentioned the nearby Marks&Spencer on this thread as well and I've found that place has a similar atmosphere, although it's 'darker'.

Make of it what you will, but those are just my own thoughts on the buildings.

That's exactly how I feel about the place too! I never put it down to anything paranormal - just always explained it away with lack of natural light, design etc etc. But as soon as I get out the front door back on to Henry street, I always breath a huge sigh of relief!

[Riamfada]

Originally Posted by Rasmus

It would be interesting to see the plans of the old hospital, and figure out what was in that area. I wonder is there any way of getting a hold of something like that?

You could try the Irish architectural archives on Stephens green. I got all the construction notes and drawings for charleville castle there

[Rasmus]

Originally Posted by Riamfada

You could try the Irish architectural archives on Stephens green. I got all the construction notes and drawings for charleville castle there

What a great idea, thank you!

[stomprockin]

Originally Posted by Rasmus

What a great idea, thank you!

Check this out! - http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,715441,734445,7,9
I zoomed in to the location for your convenience.

You can view a new map of your area/home and superimpose them with the ordnance survey maps of 1837-1842 and 1888-1913.

Looks like there was a infirmary on the site or beside where the Jervis center is.

[Riamfada]

Did a bit of paranormal investigating/christmas shopping in Jervis.All the fruit looks likes its balanced on the edge. You can also see the security camera to the top left.

[Stephen_King]

Originally Posted by CMpunked

It may be coincidental, but i notice that at 2.54 on the pineapple vid, there is some sort of, what appears to be, a reflection of a light possibly from outside on the white square in the bottom left hand corner of the video.
What makes it odd is how the pineapple appears to fall about 5 seconds afterwards. This flash reflection doesnt seem to happen again on either videos.

Could be a car or something passing outside, there's some windows just around the juice bar.

I actually know one of the girls who works in that Zumo and she assures me the fruit was\is balanced pretty well, with the oranges and pineapples held in place with a surrounding banana fortification.

Im putting this down to a possible structural deficiency of the bananas, shoddy banana fort building skills or perhaps a mixture of both. Either that or a cunningly hidden security guard-I would wager, much like Oscar the Grouch, surreptitiously hiding in the bin awaiting his opportunity to pounce and retreat once his task is completed.

Now perhaps some may think that a ghost has somehow interacted with the molecular magnetic field of the bananas, causing the atoms within to vibrate in opposition to the the molecular magnetic fields of the oranges and pineapples sitting atop, in turn generating enough repulsive force between the two to hurl said fruits through the air towards the unsuspecting cleaner but I am not amongst them

I believe there are two other cameras covering what I believe to be the scene of Oscar's crime, perhaps the release of their footage could help clear matters up

[Rasmus]

Originally Posted by stomprockin

Check this out! - http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,715441,734445,7,9
I zoomed in to the location for your convenience.

You can view a new map of your area/home and superimpose them with the ordnance survey maps of 1837-1842 and 1888-1913.

Looks like there was a infirmary on the site or beside where the Jervis center is.

Thank you. I couldn't get anything from the link but checked out the site, what fun! What's really interesting about this location is the church, hospital and graveyard triangle. Standard I guess for the time, but absorbing none the less. The current Xmas market in Wolfe Tone Square stands on a disused graveyard so to be speak. I never knew this, but a quick googling brings up loads of info.

[Karona]

I used to work in Zumos and all displays are done first thing in the morning, so they would have went all day without falling, even with vibrations from people walking around, but yet they fall when no one is there.... very strange.

[Rasmus]

Originally Posted by Latchy

i worked in Jervis street hospital back in the 80s but cant recall any spooky goings on or tales of sorts that i can remember .

As i am still alive i cant have gone back to haunt the place either .

I know you said this two years ago, but do you recall what department of the hospital was situated where the Zumo stand is now? Or Marks and Spencer?